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#41 Kevin Street

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:14 PM

It looks much better on Picard. :hehe:
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#42 the 'Hawk

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:15 PM

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#43 Norville

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:28 PM

I'm *so* glad that I care nothing for the SuperBowl. I didn't even remember that it was SuperBowl Sunday until that evening, sometime around 5 PM. ;)

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I actually thought the rapper who could not seem to stop grabbing his crotch was in worse taste, but what do I know?

That's how Michael Jackson used to perform; I wonder how many performers picked it up from him?

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I just realized: that bit with the guy in the spacesuit walking on the moon waving a flag? That wasn't a tribute to space exploration, that was a live-action MTV Logo. :wacko: I couldn't figure out what a mookwalk had to do with the Columbia tribute, and now I get it: it had nothing to do with Columbia and everything to do with crass commericalism.

Ah. Well, 1986 is pretty much the last time I was watching MTV regularly, so I remember the spacesuited guy planting an MTV flag on the moon. I also remember that, for a few days after the Challenger accident, they had a non-crass salute to Challenger -- I think they showed a successfully-launching shuttle, but what I really remember is that they showed the group pic of the crew, them with their big grins, sitting/standing at a table. *sniffle*

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Was Janet's exposed breast the mystery guest?

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:46 PM

the'Hawk, on Feb 2 2004, 05:41 PM, said:

I mean, I love Bono, and am no fan of Kid (bawidtaba daba daba diggy diggy diggy doogy drop the boogie) Rock, but I see the point. If we're going to criticize celebs for taking advantage of the US flag, let's do it across the board instead of just to Kid Rock.

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#45 Smitty

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 12:33 AM

Lord Ravensburg, on Feb 2 2004, 07:23 PM, said:

Yeah, and if he had wiped his ass on it that would have been the icing on the cake.  Cause you know, treating it with disrespect IS an appropriate way to annoy other people.   :glare:
Hmm um no, if he had wiped on national TV he;d be in jail on an indecency charge. :)

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 12:43 AM

Uhm Drew you do realize that the spaceman holding the flag has been the mascot for MTV ever since the the channel started, right?

Hell, the channel had the shuttle Columbia countdown and launch to premiere the channel. Yeah.

Crass commercialism? Hence the freakin ads every 2 minutes. Get with the game plan.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 12:45 AM

MTV hasn't used that moon logo commercial in almost 20 years. To say that any moon image in an MTV production must just be an ad for themselves even to this day is rather silly and unnecessarily hostile. (And this is not from someone who likes MTV or would generally defend the dignity of MTV.)

#48 Kevin Street

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:09 AM

I thought their tribute to the Columbia was really cheesy. The only thing they did right was bringing the STS-114 crew onto the field.

Instead of Josh Grogan, the backup chorus, and the god-awful spacesuited guy on a cheesy moon (What does that have to do with Columbia?) it would have been so much better if the announcer mentioned the anniversary and then asked the crowd for a minute of silence to commemorate the Columbia astronauts. After the minute was over, he could say something like "Now please show your support for the crew of NASA's newest shuttle mission!" And everyone could applaud the astronauts on the field.

#49 Smitty

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:36 AM

Delvo, on Feb 2 2004, 11:43 PM, said:

MTV hasn't used that moon logo commercial in almost 20 years. To say that any moon image in an MTV production must just be an ad for themselves even to this day is rather silly and unnecessarily hostile. (And this is not from someone who likes MTV or would generally defend the dignity of MTV.)
Have you not seen the MTV Music Awards? The award is the moonman mascot.

20 years? I was watching MTV 2 days ago and saw the moonman pop up.

How exactly was it hostile?

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:47 AM

Smitty, on Feb 3 2004, 05:31 AM, said:

Ultimately, it's the ideas represented by the flag not the flag itself that's of utmost importance.
Wrong- both aspects are equally important.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 02:13 AM

Javert Rovinski, on Feb 2 2004, 07:13 PM, said:

Random Irony Note: I just realized that those who spent $10 on PPV to see the lingire bowl saw less skin than those who stayed for the 'real' halftime show.
You must have gotten a discount, Rov. It was 19.95 across the board.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:25 AM

Smitty, on Feb 2 2004, 11:41 PM, said:

Uhm Drew you do realize that the spaceman holding the flag has been the mascot for MTV ever since the the channel started, right?
Yes, I do. And can you tell me what a man walking around on the lunar surface waving a flag has to do with the Columbia--which you may not realize never went to the moon? ;)

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Delvo: MTV hasn't used that moon logo commercial in almost 20 years. To say that any moon image in an MTV production must just be an ad for themselves even to this day is rather silly and unnecessarily hostile. (And this is not from someone who likes MTV or would generally defend the dignity of MTV.)

As Smitty pointed out, it's still used as their award statuette.

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Kevin. . . and the god-awful spacesuited guy on a cheesy moon (What does that have to do with Columbia?)

Nothing. It was just the MTV Logo. That's all.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:56 AM

I'm really horrified that Janet Jackson's momentarily exposed boobie ruined and debased what was otherwise a wholesome, family-friendly spectacle of crotch-grabbing rappers and dominatrix-clad dancers, T&A filled beer commercials, erectile dysfunction ads warning us about four hour erections, advertisements featuring farting horses, and of course those men in tight pants tackling each other down on the field.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:00 AM

MuseZack, on Feb 3 2004, 09:54 AM, said:

I'm really horrified that Janet Jackson's momentarily exposed boobie ruined and debased what was otherwise a wholesome, family-friendly spectacle of crotch-grabbing rappers and dominatrix-clad dancers, T&A filled beer commercials, erectile dysfunction ads warning us about four hour erections, advertisements featuring farting horses, and of course those men in tight pants tackling each other down on the field.
As many people have noted, the Boob That Ate the Superbowl was just one of a series of lowest-common-denominator spectacles that greeted the unprepared eye during the game.
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#55 Kevin Street

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:00 AM

LOL Zack! :lol:

Excellent point.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:02 AM

Drew, on Feb 3 2004, 03:58 PM, said:

MuseZack, on Feb 3 2004, 09:54 AM, said:

I'm really horrified that Janet Jackson's momentarily exposed boobie ruined and debased what was otherwise a wholesome, family-friendly spectacle of crotch-grabbing rappers and dominatrix-clad dancers, T&A filled beer commercials, erectile dysfunction ads warning us about four hour erections, advertisements featuring farting horses, and of course those men in tight pants tackling each other down on the field.
As many people have noted, the Boob That Ate the Superbowl was just one of a series of lowest-common-denominator spectacles that greeted the unprepared eye during the game.
My point being that the boob was probably the least offensive thing out there.  Sarcasm being lost on some people.... :cool:
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:15 AM

Kevin Street, on Feb 3 2004, 09:58 AM, said:

LOL Zack! :lol:

Excellent point.
And what is that point? That we are wrong to complain about seeing all this crap on prime time broadcast television during a football game that entire families watch together? Should we just shut up and take it and let television continue to slide further into the cesspool? Or should we speak up?

Me, I guess I'll speak up. If that makes me a prude, so be it.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:25 AM

Very true that the whole thing has descended into crassness. But, the level of outrage, to me, seems to indicate that the producers and the advertisers have seriously misinterpreted their audience. They seem to be targeting partying frat boys who are sitting around guzzling Bud, drooling over "The Boob" and laughing uproariously at fart jokes. But, they have missed the fact that there is a large, middle American family audience for the Super Bowl. And, as they've found, you don't mess with soccer moms!

I'd say it will require an adjustment across the board, if they want to maintain that audience, and the NFL is going to have to decide who their target audience will be.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:33 AM

Drew, on Feb 3 2004, 11:13 AM, said:

Kevin Street, on Feb 3 2004, 09:58 AM, said:

LOL Zack! :lol:

Excellent point.
And what is that point? That we are wrong to complain about seeing all this crap on prime time broadcast television during a football game that entire families watch together?
Actually, I got entirely the opposite impression from Zack's post:  That there's a lot more to complain about than one incident.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 11:36 AM

Rhys, on Feb 3 2004, 10:31 AM, said:

Drew, on Feb 3 2004, 11:13 AM, said:

Kevin Street, on Feb 3 2004, 09:58 AM, said:

LOL Zack! :lol:

Excellent point.
And what is that point? That we are wrong to complain about seeing all this crap on prime time broadcast television during a football game that entire families watch together?
Actually, I got entirely the opposite impression from Zack's post:  That there's a lot more to complain about than one incident.
It's so hard to tell with sarcasm. Perhaps one should use it more judiciously.
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