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#1 Rov Judicata

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 11:32 AM

Dean's not going to California. Or Texas. Or New York. Or South Dakota! And he won't be going to Washington DC to TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE! YEARGH!

http://www.guardian....3762041,00.html

Dean's doing the smart thing by closing his campaign, but keeping the mechanism to keep his issues alive. The country is so evenly divided that the Democrats really can't afford any internal dissent; 2004 is going to be hard enough as it is.

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Edited by Javert Rovinski, 18 February 2004 - 11:33 AM.

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#2 MuseZack

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 01:44 PM

While I hate to kick a man when he's down, and I don't think Dean was the vein-popping loony that the media caricatured him as, I'm not sorry to see him go.  As a candidate, he simply wasn't ready for prime time, and the primary process worked as it should have.  

Now it looks like it's down to Johnny Sunshine and the Boston Cadaver  (Gore Vidal once described Kerry as looking "a bit like Lincoln...after the assassination").  Should be a fun two-man primary.

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#3 Cardie

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 02:51 PM

I think a Cadaver/Sunshine ticket might be just the . . . uh . . . ticket.

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#4 Banapis

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 02:54 PM

MuseZack, on Feb 18 2004, 06:42 PM, said:

Should be a fun two-man primary.
I wouldn't count on it.  I think the Boston Cadaver :D has this thing sealed up and nothing is going to stop the JFK Express from rolling coast-to-coast.  

Unless, of course, the JFK Express turns out to be more like a 75-ton 32 wheel nuclear powered doubledeck “Big Bus” on its maiden trip between NY and Denver that becomes hopelessly beset with one disaster after another as a result of the secret machinations of a madman saboteur in an iron lung. But I don’t think that’s going to happen. ;)

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Edited by Banapis, 18 February 2004 - 03:27 PM.


#5 Drew

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 03:15 PM

I almost voted for Dean yesterday, too, because I wanted him to stick around and be a big spoiler for everyone else.

But I didn't. I voted for the only Democrat on the list that I actually wouldn't mind seeing in the White House.

(Yes, Wisconsin has an open primary. Fun fun fun!)
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#6 Delvo

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 03:32 PM

People were claiming that Kerry would be the big overall victor after he'd just won one state, on the principle that he had momentum.  If you believe in momentum, you must now believe Edwards has it, after winning one state and doing substantially better than expected in others and practically winning another, with 33 states left to go.

I wonder if Edwards is actually benefitting from Kerry's own downward momentum. Dean's message got him lots of attention from the "angry base" at first, but then he became too visible for his own good and the rest of the Democrat party dismissed him for exactly the same traits that had gotten him so far ahead. But Kerry's views, statements, "angry base" quotient, and shortcomings are the same as Dean's; he's just Dean on suppressants. If he continues to follow Dean's footsteps as he has in rising to the top, then his fall should come soon, as Democrat voters get too good of a look at him and try once again to find a candidate who's not a raving lunatic. And in the bunch that ran this year, that only leaves Edwards.

Edited by Delvo, 18 February 2004 - 03:34 PM.


#7 Kevin Street

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 03:55 PM

I think the Democratic Party owes a debt to Howard Dean. He wasn't yet ready for prime-time (or at least there was a perception that he wasn't), but he did a lot to mobilize support and generate publicity for his party by putting up such a good fight. This has been the most interesting Democratic primary race in years.

Edited by Kevin Street, 18 February 2004 - 03:56 PM.

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#8 Drew

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 04:02 PM

Kevin Street, on Feb 18 2004, 02:53 PM, said:

This has been the most interesting Democratic primary race in years.
You think so? I'd say that the race narrowed far too quickly, and the press has already crowned Kerry. It seems to me that it's one of the more typical (that is to say typically boring) races.
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#9 Kevin Street

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 04:14 PM

Well, they say that Edwards still has a chance, so I wouldn't bet too heavily on Kerry just yet. There's still some interest left there. ;)

And this race has spawned a lot of internet effluvia, which tends to get my attention pretty quickly. Dean has generated a lot of that with his Deaniacs and the "Yeeeargh!" speech. For instance, that Dean remix you linked to a while back was really funny. :p

#10 Drew

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 04:28 PM

Kevin Street, on Feb 18 2004, 03:12 PM, said:

And this race has spawned a lot of internet effluvia, which tends to get my attention pretty quickly. Dean has generated a lot of that with his Deaniacs and the "Yeeeargh!" speech. For instance, that Dean remix you linked to a while back was really funny. :p
Scroll down to the bottom of this page and you'll find dozens of "Dean Scream" remixes.  :cool:
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#11 Cardie

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 04:44 PM

Delvo, on Feb 18 2004, 03:30 PM, said:

If he continues to follow Dean's footsteps as he has in rising to the top, then his fall should come soon, as Democrat voters get too good of a look at him and try once again to find a candidate who's not a raving lunatic. And in the bunch that ran this year, that only leaves Edwards.
Uh-oh, I'm agreeing with Delvo on a political question.  The end is nigh!  :eek4:

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 05:14 PM

Delvo, on Feb 18 2004, 01:30 PM, said:

Dean's message got him lots of attention from the "angry base" at first,............ But Kerry's views, statements, "angry base" quotient, and shortcomings are the same as Dean's; he's just Dean on suppressants. If he continues to follow Dean's footsteps as he has in rising to the top, then his fall should come soon,............
:eh:  As a northern observer.....

When Dean was chugging along, I thought the Democrats would be insane to nominate him.  :crazy:

Kerry is slightly better but I tend to get very, very, sleepy when I hear him talk.  :sleeping:  :sleeping:  :sleeping:

...And, doesn't this guy have anything positive to say? :tired:

The way he talks you would think anarchy and chaos was one mighty short step away.   :thumbs-down:
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#13 Uncle Sid

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 05:19 PM

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 09:34 PM

I've already mailed in my absentee ballot for Edwards.  but Florida's primary isn't until March 9th.  Here's to hoping it works out . . . I'm still rooting for him.  I will still vote for Kerry tho if he ends up garnering the nomination, tho I still prefer Edwards.

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 09:56 PM

Ditto Cardie!   :eek2:

Ditto Nick!  :thumbs-up:
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#16 Chipper

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 10:57 PM

Well now we can focus on Kerry winning the primary, and then HE CAN TAKE OVER THE WHITE HOUSE!

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