Delvo, on Feb 22 2004, 11:07 AM, said:
Funny thing, though, if he were to do so... we could end up with FOUR Presidential elections in a row in which more than half of the counted votes were against the guy who wins.
That doesn't really mean much. Bush/Dukakis in '88 was the last time someone got above 50%, and then not by much (+3.4%)--plus there were no viable independants running. (Paul? Fulani?)
What I think is really
interesting tho . . . is we haven't had a big presidential victory (10% or more in the popular votes) since 1972 (Nixon vs. McGovern).
Nader's not going to garner much funding or support as an independant. I don't blame him for Bush winning last election, As I feel it's terribly presumptious of Dems to assume that a majority of Nader's handful of supporters would've voted for Gore if Nader hadn't run. To be blunt, I think a third would've voted for Gore, a third for Bush, and a third wouldn't have voted at all. And when our candidates are so weak that they're grasping for a few hundred
votes to shift the tide in an election and start picking on the weak 3rd party guy, pointing the finger, well look in the mirror. The past 3 elections have only been so close because both candidates sucked and most Americans were trying to decide who they despised the least. In fact, I'll bet a large number of votes were decided by the scientific process of "eeny meeny miney mo" or flipping a coin.
The Wikipedia has a nice rundown of past presidential elections here
And, although they have links for 2004 and 2008, I'm sad to say the Wikipedia has not obtained results from the future..
[Edit: Bush got Florida's electoral votes by a margin of 537 votes. If Nader hadn't run, Gore might've won . . . if CNN hadn't declared a winner early, Gore might've won . . . if 537 Florida Democrats didn't get stuck at work late and didn't get a chance to vote earlier in the day . . . Or if the geriatrics in Brevard country could actually READ a ballot . . . We can point the finger at circumstances all we want, but the fact remains--Gore lost because most Americans didn't like EITHER candidate and really didn't give a sh*t when they cast their votes.]
Edited by Nick, 22 February 2004 - 12:06 PM.