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#1 Rhea

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:31 PM

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President Bush is running for a second term in a more polarized atmosphere than any president since the Gallup Poll began measuring the partisan gap in presidential job approval. To the extent that Republicans love Bush, Democrats loathe him.

In a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll last weekend, 91% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats approved of the job Bush is doing. No other president has had as big a gap since Gallup began measuring job approval by party in 1948.

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This certainly doesn't surprise me, but nevertheless  :eek:  :eek2:
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Posted 10 March 2004 - 08:11 PM

I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another. -- George W. Bush
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Posted 10 March 2004 - 08:13 PM

Heh. Yeah, and you see the same pattern here in OT... meaning the swing voters are more important than ever. :cool:
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Posted 10 March 2004 - 11:30 PM

QuantumFlux, on Mar 10 2004, 07:09 PM, said:

I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another. -- George W. Bush
Quite an accomplishment the Democrats have managed to pull off...

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 11:53 PM

Yeah, okay, like he's more polarizing than Lincoln. Whatever. ;)

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#6 tennyson

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:14 AM

There have definitely been more polarizing presidents but as they said he was the most polarizing since they started taking this pole. I've seen it happen and I'm still trying to present a more moderate course but it hasn't been working that well.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:50 AM

Delvo, on Mar 11 2004, 05:28 AM, said:

QuantumFlux, on Mar 10 2004, 07:09 PM, said:

I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another. -- George W. Bush
Quite an accomplishment the Democrats have managed to pull off...
I thought President Bush was a republican? and while i'm on that, what does GOP stand for? i see it every now and again, and It's almost always used to refer to the republicans.

Edited by Cyberhippie, 11 March 2004 - 12:50 AM.

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:55 AM

He is a Republican.  And GOP stands for Grand Old Party, though I can't remember why.
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#9 Cardie

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:29 AM

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The Origin Of "GOP" 


A favorite of headline writers, GOP dates back to the 1870s and '80s. The abbreviation was cited in a New York Herald story on October 15, 1884; "' The G.O.P. Doomed,' shouted the Boston Post.... The Grand Old Party is in condition to inquire...."

But what GOP stands for has changed with the times. In 1875 there was a citation in the Congressional Record referring to "this gallant old party," and , according to Harper's Weekly, in the Cincinnati Commercial in 1876 to "Grand Old Party."

Perhaps the use of "the G.O.M." for Britain's Prime Minister William E. Gladstone in 1882 as " the Grand Old Man" stimulated the use of GOP in the United States soon after.

In early motorcar days, GOP took on the term "get out and push." During the 1964 presidential campaign, "Go-Party" was used briefly, and during the Nixon Administration, frequent references to the "generation of peace" had happy overtones. In line with moves in the '70s to modernize the party, Republican leaders took to referring to the "grand old party," harkening back to a 1971 speech by President Nixon at the dedication of the Eisenhower Republican Center in Washington, D.C.

Indeed, the "grand old party" is an ironic term, since the Democrat Party was organized some 22 years earlier in 1832.

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#10 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 08:40 AM

Cardie, on Mar 11 2004, 07:27 AM, said:

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Indeed, the "grand old party" is an ironic term, since the Democrat Party was organized some 22 years earlier in 1832.
The writer seems to miss the most obvious point of the term Grand or Gallant Old Party.  The 1870s was still the period of the bloody shirt waving over the Civil War.  Grand Old Party to me is a reference to the Party of Lincoln and the Party of Union.  The party that saved the United States as a whole rather than one that supported slavery and disunion like the Democrats.  The term GOP if anything served as a slight against the Democrats as it attempted to remind them where each party stood during the Civil War.  

Maybe the writer of that little blurb was a Democrat and just neglected to remember the history of their party. ;)
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 10:57 AM

CJ AEGIS, on Mar 11 2004, 01:38 PM, said:

Maybe the writer of that little blurb was a Democrat and just neglected to remember the history of their party. ;)
Well the writer must have also forgotten his party's action in the voting down of the civil rights bill of 1956 which included among the nay sayers JFK and LBJ.  who today are held up as examples of great Democrats.

#12 Munrock

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 11:10 AM

The UK's Labour Party used to be left and the Conservatives right.

The names don't mean f-all.  Anyone who thinks a political party, a nation, or any other ageing group still alludes to the principles it was founded on needs their head removed from the sand/clouds.
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:17 PM

Thanks for the brief Cardie

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#14 Rhea

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:30 PM

Munrock, on Mar 11 2004, 09:08 AM, said:

The UK's Labour Party used to be left and the Conservatives right.

The names don't mean f-all.  Anyone who thinks a political party, a nation, or any other ageing group still alludes to the principles it was founded on needs their head removed from the sand/clouds.
LOL, Munrock.  :lol: I agree, actually.  :cool:
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:40 PM

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Tony Blair is the best conservative Prime Minister in years ;)
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 02:03 PM

Javert Rovinski, on Mar 10 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

Heh. Yeah, and you see the same pattern here in OT... meaning the swing voters are more important than ever. :cool:
It's an interesting time for the old Orbis Terrarum, that's for sure.  :ninjadeath:  :look: :love:

EDIT: the fact that the ninja is on the left and the luvvy sign on the right is not intended to be any kind of statement, btw. Just wanted to make that clear.

Edited by Kevin Street, 11 March 2004 - 02:20 PM.

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#17 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 03:59 PM

Munrock, on Mar 11 2004, 11:08 AM, said:

Anyone who thinks a political party, a nation, or any other ageing group still alludes to the principles it was founded on needs their head removed from the sand/clouds.
That should be applied to anyone who insults the proper exploration of history. ;)  The fact is that the Bloody Shirt and waving of it was a very real concept in US History.  Hence why Grand Old Party to allude back to the Civil War in the 1870s and the term stuck.  Of course some would rather jump to accusations and insults rather than taking it as a simple statement on history. ;)
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 04:30 PM

Well, if Kerry should win (assuming that he gets the nomination, and at this point I see no reason to believe he won't) then I don't think it'll be because voters are excited about the prospect of a Kerry presidency, but rather because there's been so much unfounded hatred stirred up against Bush that it would be a vote against Bush rather than a vote for Kerry.
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#19 Godeskian

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 04:43 PM

Welcome to English politics, where we don't vote a party _in_ we vote a party _out_

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 06:10 PM

Cyberhippie, on Mar 10 2004, 11:48 PM, said:

Delvo, on Mar 11 2004, 05:28 AM, said:

QuantumFlux, on Mar 10 2004, 07:09 PM, said:

I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another. -- George W. Bush
Quite an accomplishment the Democrats have managed to pull off...
I thought President Bush was a republican?
Yes. That's the point.



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