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Poll: Who do you intend to vote for for Prez? (52 member(s) have cast votes)

Who do you intend to vote for for Prez?

  1. President George Bush (18 votes [34.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.62%

  2. Senator John Kerry (26 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  3. Ralph Nader (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Undecided (8 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

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#21 Delvo

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 02:03 PM

I haven't decided yet. Looking at it in terms of just this election and these candidates, there's no doubt that Bush is better than Howard Dean On Suppressants by leaps and bounds, even though he's only mediocre himself. But I might end up voting for more of a "big picture" reason.

One big-picture reason is just the tactics employed by that infantile bloodthirsty megalomaniac Kerry. I just don't want to see such tactics succeed and really believe it will harm this country if they become/remain dominant for too long.

But I've also said many times that, given the fact that Democrats are the most dangerous thing to this country, the best thing that could happen would be the destruction of the Republican party as we now know it so that something with the spine to stand up to the Democrats could replace it (even if that were a vastly altered reincarnation under the same name). And firing the second consecutive "Republican" President who's turned out to be at least half a Democrat in disguise (not to mention running a campaign that so far looks more like a Democrat mockery of Republicans than a serious attempt to get re-elected) seems like a good place and time to start that process.

#22 Cait

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 02:04 PM

I will vote for Kerry, based entirely on the fact that he is not Bush.  

However I'm reminded as I say this, that I've always wished there was a place on every ballot to vote for NONE OF THE ABOVE.

I've always wondered what the percentage would be of voters who, like most of us, have to make a choice based on the lesser of evils instead of actual support for a candidate.  

I've always wondered what it would be like for a candidate who won an election but had over 50% of the vote say, NONE OF THE ABOVE.  Gives a whole new meaning to approval rating.

Actually I'll be honest I've always wondered what would happen in an election where NO ONE was elected because everyone voted NONE OF THE ABOVE.  

Of course I know this is impossible, so trust me I'm not holding my breath.  But I like the idea of tracking this kind of opinion as well as voter support for a candidate.  I think it expresses the will of the people with greater clarity.

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#23 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 02:25 PM

Bush and no questions asked there.

Jon summed it up.  I think Kerry is a good for nothing Northeastern Liberal Democrat Eltist Rat Masschuetts poltician.  I’ll take the guy from Texas who has problems with pronouncication and rubs some of the right people wrong everyday over what Kerry is.  Myself I’d much rather have a Dwight Eisenhower…. ;)
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#24 HubcapDave

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 03:15 PM

George Bush, no two ways about it.

Would like to smite him with a "fiscal sensibility" stick a few times until he remembers that Republicans are supposed to be for spending  less money, not more.  He may not be the perfect president, but I'll take him any day of the week and twice on Sundays over whatever the Dems are trying to serve up.

John Kerry is so adroit at speaking out of both sides of his mouth that he has raised it to a near art form! "I actually voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it."  :eek4:

#25 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 03:21 PM

You know the more I think about it the more I conclude the following.  Bush may divide the nation…  but the more Kerry gets into it the more he seems to divide people on top of the division by Bush
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#26 Kosh

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 04:24 PM

As did John Burke, I picked Undecided. I'll wait to see who Kerry's running mate turns out to be.
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#27 Drew

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 04:35 PM

Kosh, on Mar 19 2004, 03:22 PM, said:

As did John Burke, I picked Undecided. I'll wait to see who Kerry's running mate turns out to be.
Are you counting on him leaving office early? (By choice or force?)
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#28 Kosh

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 04:49 PM

If it's edwards, I may vote for Kerry. If it's Dean or Clarke, I would be a little more inclined to vote for W. I don't forsee anyone leaving office early, but I do consider the possibility. I prefer a president who can spell Potato.
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#29 Shalamar

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 05:37 PM

Despite all of my problems with Bush, Better him than Kerry!
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#30 tennyson

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 05:40 PM

Kosh, you are confusing Bush with Dan Qayle, two men who have very little in common but party.
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#31 Bad Wolf

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 05:42 PM

yeah I mean at least Dan Quayle knows how to pronounce the word "American".  :p
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#32 Josh

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 05:44 PM

I really have no idea. I really really REALLY REALLY strongly dislike Bush but Kerry is honestly a moron. :p

Talk about voting for the lesser of two evils...
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#33 Norville

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 11:14 PM

I don't like Bush, but Kerry is driving me up a wall, and I'm just going to ignore Nader, thanks.

Oh, just... undecided as yet. I'm simply not yet able to reach the point of "I'll vote for anyone because he's not Bush". Not if I find the alternative every bit as pathetic.

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On the offchance that Bush does win, I'm moving to Canada.

Okay, I think we should keep lists of the people who say this, and then hold them to it if Bush does win. ;)
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#34 Drew

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Posted 19 March 2004 - 11:43 PM

Norville, on Mar 19 2004, 10:12 PM, said:

Okay, I think we should keep lists of the people who say this, and then hold them to it if Bush does win. ;)
Absolutely! I think we've still got some stragglers from 2000, too. (Alec Baldwin, for example.)
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#35 Ilphi

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Posted 20 March 2004 - 04:58 AM

I'm not a US Citizen so I won't be voting ;)

I wonder if I started a thread of "Tony Blair vs. M. Howard, 2005", anyone would care :p
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#36 Rov Judicata

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Posted 20 March 2004 - 08:25 AM

Cyberhippie, on Mar 19 2004, 10:31 AM, said:

Looks like you voted undecided instead?
and i'll be curious to see the results myself
I just didn't get around to voting for a few minutes. :cool:

Anyway, tenatively anyway, it loosk like we're at right about where the nation is, with slightly more undecideds. Interesting. :cool:
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#37 Gefiltefishmon

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 10:04 AM

Cyberhippie, on Mar 19 2004, 05:36 PM, said:

I've never understood why a certain political leaning is left or right
As far as I understand, the whole "left right" thing comes from the position of parties in the capitol. Years ago the conservatives sat on the right hand side of the aisle (when facing the podium) and liberals on the left - this is still true to this day.

Eventually Left (liberal) became attached to socialism and communism. "leftist" became an adjective to describe those who were far beyond the normal and into the above mentioned causes.

This is just a recollection from Jr. High Civics. Maybe some of our Poly/Sci majors could give a definitive answer - You don't Learn much political history when studying mathematics!

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#38 Gefiltefishmon

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 01:38 PM

Gvambat, on Mar 19 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

G1223, on Mar 19 2004, 02:00 PM, said:

Gvambat, on Mar 19 2004, 05:40 PM, said:

Kerry, on the theory that he's not Bush.
That is about as good as Syphalis becasue it's not AIDS
*shrug* If you have to make a choice...

Actually, it's a pretty good metaphor. I'd really rather not get either, but given that those are the only two reasonable choices, Kerry poses less of a risk, is probably easier to live with, will probably do less damage, and has an overall better prognosis.

Great!!!! - At least with Kerry you feel that with a little rest and quiet - a few good meals and some antibiotics you might just make it - but BUSH is a terminal illness.

Edited by Gefiltefishmon, 23 March 2004 - 01:39 PM.

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#39 Anna

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 01:54 PM

Javert Rovinski, on Mar 19 2004, 10:29 AM, said:

If you need any candidates added to the ballot, please PM me or post and I can edit the poll accordingly.
I'd like the candidate behind door number 4, Rov!  :p

Like my last Governor's race, I'm not sure there's a big enough clothes pin to hold my nose while I vote... So, undecided it is until I find a better choice or a reason to vote for someone.

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#40 Perpetual Malcontent

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 02:47 AM

I'll vote for Kerry because he can beat Bush.  If Bush gets "elected" again I am going to Canada :p
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