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District of Columbia Statehood 2004

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Poll: Should District of Columbia be Adopted Into Statehood? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

Should District of Columbia be Adopted Into Statehood?

  1. Yes (6 votes [24.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

  2. No (19 votes [76.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.00%

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#21 Fire_Storm20

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Posted 12 May 2004 - 04:37 PM

D.C. ... a state ... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :lol:   Sheesh, DC is composed of four things:
1. The Government - The guys who run everything
2. Museums - Tourist Magnet
3. Lobbyists - vote for MY special cause damnit
4. Southeast (Anacostia) - Crime central, dont go without kevlar and at least a .45

As I am away at college and not at home, leeme guess, Elanor Holmes Norton is bitchin again, or is it Nerdy Bow-tie Williams?  

Sorry if I seem cynical, I just live next to DC.

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#22 Soton

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Posted 13 May 2004 - 06:38 AM

Handmaiden07, on May 12 2004, 01:25 PM, said:

Apparently the citizens of DC think its broke.  They cite Taxation w/o representation as part of the problem of social ills facing the territory. 

HA!  Many of the reasons for their social ills is that they've had incompetents running the government.  Marion Barry is a classic example.

#23 Gefiltefishmon

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Posted 13 May 2004 - 08:34 AM

I voted no - DC was never meant to be a state - and it was never meant to be a place where people outside the government live - Having lived in DC and just across the river from it - I can tell you, personally IMHO making DC a state would be the worst possible thing to do for it - in fact I think it should be returned to it's previous state of being a protectorate (or whatever it was) the residents of DC have had self rule for some time and haven't managed to do much with it (Marion Barry notwithstanding).  :devil:
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#24 QueenTiye

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 12:44 AM

I finally voted - and I voted yes.

I voted yes, not because the arguments in favor of statehood were so convincing (the guy who seems to articulate the vision most clearly also favors statehood for New York City, a proposition I think is laughable at best...), but because the arguments against were so paternalistic.

The right of a people to be self-governing does not depend upon their successful at self-governance.  It depends entirely on their rights as a people.  It seems that DC citizens are divided on this issue, but if they ever actually agree on the idea - then I think the capital should be redistricted, and the rest of the territory should be adopted as a state.  Their lack of success or immense success thereafter is their own affair.

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#25 Lord Ravensburg

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 12:49 AM

Why not just fold D.C. into an existing state?  Surely this wouldn't cause the sort of divisive interstate rivalry you would have seen 200 years ago.

#26 Han

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 12:57 AM

No. Imagine all those flags that would have to be changed. And 51 stars would kinda disrupt the nice pattern.  ;)
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#27 G1223

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 04:21 AM

Does it have the population requirements. remember we are not talking the suburbs iof the city like Arlington (Virginia) or Bathesda(Maryland) we are talking DC itself?

What is the property tax value on the Tresury? or the other federal buildings? Or the Smithsonian? The number of embassies take up more property.

The reason the statehood was not given was until 1973 it was a place that when the government was no in session it lost a huge percentage of it' s popualation. due to the heat or the coldness.( It is in a swamp neither tempature was worth staying.
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#28 QueenTiye

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 08:29 AM

States w/ under 1,000,000 population
Montana               -                          902,195
Delaware               -                          783,600
South Dakota               -                          754,844
North Dakota               -                          642,200
Alaska               -                          626,932
Vermont               -                          608,827
DC         -                    572,059
Wyoming               -                          493,782

Edited by Handmaiden07, 14 May 2004 - 08:35 AM.

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#29 Delvo

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 09:49 AM

Hankuang, on May 13 2004, 11:55 PM, said:

No. Imagine all those flags that would have to be changed. And 51 stars would kinda disrupt the nice pattern.  ;)
Maybe we could also make Puerto Rico a state and find an arrangement for 52 stars. It's also neatly a multiple of 13...

#30 QueenTiye

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 09:56 AM

^^ :) Likes the idea! :)

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#31 jon3831

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 11:10 AM

Here's a question...

What're you gonna name this new state?

After all, we already have a Washington state, and a new state couldn't be called "DC" anymore...

"The State of the District of Columbia"?

Not a very nice ring.


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#32 QueenTiye

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 11:52 AM

Yeah, well, neither does Wisconsin, but hey, who's complaining? ;)  (Sorry Wisconsiners...) Anyway - it could just be Columbia.

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#33 jon3831

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 12:40 PM

State of Columbia, eh?

Better than the State of Inebriation. ;) ;)
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