Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:16 AM
One of the biggest issues today is gay adoption. Children are innocent, vulnerable, and impressionable. The problem is that children who are raised by gay parents have more problems. They grow up sexually confused. They experiment more with homosexuality.
These are the words of the American College of Pediatricians, a professional group of doctors: "Given the current body of research, the American College of Pediatricians believes it is inappropriate, potentially hazardous to children, and dangerously irresponsible to change the age-old prohibition on homosexual parenting, whether by adoption, foster care, or by reproductive manipulation. This position is rooted in the best available science."
Dated: January 22, 2004
Second, take this example of two researchers who are in favor of gay parenting and adoption. Even they say that children raised by gay parents are more sexually active, more sexually confused, and more likely to grow up gay.
Third, people make claims that gay adoption is a civil right, and should be allowed. In fact, gay adoption has nothing to do with civil rights, only special rights. Actually, it gets worse. White gays are engaged in racism against black gays, and black gays aren't going to take it anymore. Quoting the following article: "The White gay community is one of America's last strongholds for White Supremacy. "
How can a group like the white gay movement be a civil rights movement when it discriminates against black people? The white gay movement is intensely intolerant. They almost never defend their position with evidence or logic. Worse, you can't criticize the historic societal changes desired by the white gay movement without it throwing back the accusation "Anti-gay bigotry!" Who then is allowed to speak up for children? Apparently only "intolerant" people dare do so anymore.
Gay adoption is wrong. It should not be allowed.
Fortunately, something can be done. Florida has banned gay adoptions. Now that state's ban has been upheld in court.
Other states can and should also ban gay adoption.
The only people who have a right to adopt are people who the public deem to be good candidates for parenthood. Gay people are not good role models for children, and should not be allowed to adopt any child.
Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:26 AM
We have to go through a public exam now?
Ooops.... there go a couple hundred kids in my area alone, back into foster care.... which is EVER so good for emotional stability....
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:29 AM
Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:29 AM
My examples are from a few years back. A Gay man adpoted two brothers all legal and with no headaches . he had tried to adopt the boys younger sister so as to keep the family toghere. A church group protested and raised a stink and the state did not allow him to adopt the girl.
The girl was adopted by one of the protestors who two years later molested the now 9 yr old girl. The state at the request of the gay man allowed him to finally adopt the girl and reunite the family. The gay man was very good with and for the children.
I see children who are left with foster families who grow up malajusted. They feel unwanted and to an extent they are. If a child has been in foster care or is beyond age 9 a lot of people look elsewhere. They usually are wanting a child so they can raise one who very young as they will bond tighter than if the child has been too long in a system where he is a number.
By the time they are in their teens some have criminal record or other problems dealing with society. Some times it is drugs or other problems.
So I only want the child placed in a safe enviroment where they can grow up I do not really care about sexual orientation unless the person pushes his attention upon the child. Then it's child molestation and there are a lot of problems.
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 02:40 AM
Posted 28 May 2004 - 04:53 AM
Well da: You try being Gay in this society with medical pronouncements like this, and weíll see if youíre not stressed out and if you donít start to smoke. The listed symptoms, if they can truly be considered that, are also seen in heterosexuals forced to undergo continuous levels of moderate, to high stress. As to that bit about being overly promiscuous, have they taken a look at the current 15 to 35 aged, heterosexual population in the larger cities of this country lately.
If I could afford it I would love to see this study, from with little I see this study is a major piece of homophobic trash. In particular I would like to see the questionnaires, to screen the cohorts, and produce the data. What is more I would like to see the recruitment criteria and methods, used to bring the individual members of the cohort into the study. AND thatís just based on a footnote blurb.
Edited by emsparks, 28 May 2004 - 04:58 AM.
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 05:54 AM
Umm...I agree with both Josh and Lil.
If person is going to be a good parent, then I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be eligable to adopt a child. And before you ask (although I doubt you'll stick your head in here again), sexual orientation does not make a person "bad".
I could just keep going for hours...wow....
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 06:22 AM
Posted 28 May 2004 - 06:29 AM
taran, on May 28 2004, 05:14 AM, said:
Children who are not adopted have to be taken care of somehow - you're really saying that a child living in a series of foster homes or an institution is really better off than being raised by a same-sex couple?
BTW, I checked the bibliography of the article. Judging just based on the names of the articles, it looks like a carefully selected list - they only picked articles that supported their theory. I also noticed that a number of the articles talked about single-parenthood, which is something that you don't address here.
Face it - the arguments are just circular logic. You say that gay couples shouldn't adopt because they aren't married and you'll say that they shouldn't marry since they can't have kids (and you'd never make that argument about a straight, sterile couple, would you?!).
[Edit to add]
BTW, I think that adoption agencies try to do a good job in screening any potential parents before the adoption goes through. Granted, those agencies may have prejudiced people working there, but each adoption is handled for the benefit of the child.
Edited by Broph, 28 May 2004 - 06:30 AM.
Posted 28 May 2004 - 06:32 AM
Broph, on May 28 2004, 04:27 AM, said:
Posted 28 May 2004 - 06:46 AM
Quote:abstract of article
Technical Report: Coparent or Second-Parent Adoption by Same-Sex Parents
Ellen C. Perrin, MD and Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health
A growing body of scientific literature demonstrates that children who grow up with 1 or 2 gay and/or lesbian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social, and sexual functioning as do children whose parents are heterosexual. Childrenís optimal development seems to be influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by the particular structural form it takes.
(sorry, can't seem to get the link working on this one)
or the BMJ(British Medical Journal)
A limitation of the early investigations was that only school age children were studied. It was argued that sleeper effects may exist such that children raised in lesbian mother families may experience difficulties in emotional wellbeing and in intimate relationships when they grow up. Further, they may be more likely than other children to themselves adopt a lesbian or gay sexual orientation in adulthood, an outcome that has been considered undesirable by courts of law. To address this question, a group of children raised in lesbian mother families in the United Kingdom was followed up to adulthood. 6 7 These young adults did not differ from their counterparts from heterosexual families in terms of quality of family relationships, psychological adjustment, or quality of peer relationships. With respect to their sexual orientation, the large majority of children from lesbian families identified as heterosexual in adulthood.
In recent years, attention has moved from the issue of child custody to whether lesbian women should have access to assisted reproduction procedures, particularly donor insemination, to enable them to have children without the involvement of a male partner. The findings from studies of these families, where the children grow up without a father right from the start, indicate that the children do not differ from their peers in two parent, heterosexual families in terms of either emotional wellbeing or gender development.8-11 The only clear difference to emerge is that co-mothers in two parent lesbian families are more involved in parenting than are fathers from two parent homes.
At least you could follow up the links if you are interested in getting a more balanced picture....
As for the racism thing...cobblers.
Children need love, stability, support and attention. If they have these things they will turn out happy and well adjusted adults whatever their background.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
Posted 28 May 2004 - 08:15 AM
Josh, on May 28 2004, 05:27 AM, said:
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 10:49 AM
G1223, on May 28 2004, 01:27 AM, said:
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 11:35 AM
And as for the idea that simply because a person is gay they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children....BS
What's next? Just because a person is gay they can't get an education? Or better yet, since gays are apparently second class people, they shouldn't be allowed to drive a car, own a home, have a job....Grrrr!
Don't even get me started.
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:20 PM
Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:41 PM
Most of the White gay men that I know, prefer Black men.
Posted 28 May 2004 - 12:56 PM
schools are bad enough to the average child. very few have no tolerance policies towards bullying and most administrations let it go on without care. harassing of children of gay couples would more than likely be condoned by the admin b/c they would think the parents are immortal/disgusting/insert yr choice of insult.
so until this country can stop being homophobic and/or school administrations are forced to shape up, i say no.
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Posted 28 May 2004 - 02:49 PM
BTW, I don't think that gay couples are immortal. You can quote me on that one.
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