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#21 Norville

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 08:46 PM

I'm glad that he no longer has to suffer Alzheimer's, not knowing who he or anyone else is, where he is, etc. -- it's a very cruel disease, worse when people are strong physically and last so long with it, like Reagan and one of my grandmothers.

Unlike Chipper, I was around for all of his presidency and sometimes feel as if I remember every bit of it (in a scary way). I spent 8 years worrying that we'd be nuked at any moment...

I remember being at school when we were called to Assembly and told that there had been an attempted assassination on Reagan. The teachers were very upset. So was I, because I was very nationalistic at that age. I could've slapped the kids who started laughing, ignorantly thinking it was all very funny. :barf:

My respects for his service. May he RIP.
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Posted 05 June 2004 - 09:45 PM

Godspeed, Mr. President.

Eternal life grant onto him and may perpetual light shine on him, may you rest in peace.

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#23 Banapis

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 10:52 PM

Rest in Peace, Mr. President.

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#24 Lord Ravensburg

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:37 PM

One of my strongest memories from the 80's was Reagan's speech to the nation after the Challenger explosion.  Even now it's a very somber, bittersweet memory.  

Farewell, Mr. President...

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:46 PM

The merits and faults of the Reagan Legacy will be debated from years and centuries after even we are gone.

One of the few thing I will admire Reagan for is his taking the hard line with the Soviets, he didn't wanna make nicey-nice with them and early in his adminastration rightfully called the USSR the evil empire.

Of course many will say that the USSR was on the decline and they were partially right but Reagan quickened the collapse again many will state that hurt us economically they may be right.

Then there was the Iran/Contra scandal among others that will cast him in a negative light.

But the final ten years of his life he battled Alzheimer's disease, that is a condition I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

Rest In Peace Ronald Wilson Reagan.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:54 PM

Classy <Please don't turn this into a political thread, though>
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 12:02 AM

Definitely a mark of class, oh believe me JR I wasn't trying to.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 12:22 AM

Rest in peace Mr. President.  You left your mark upon the world and led this nation through interesting times.
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#29 Norville

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 02:50 AM

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One of my strongest memories from the 80's was Reagan's speech to the nation after the Challenger explosion. Even now it's a very somber, bittersweet memory.

*sniffle* I loved his quoting "slipped the surly bonds of earth and touched the face of God."
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 03:01 AM

Spotted this on the news just after I watched the Belmont, and not having to go through Alzheimer's any more is definitely a good thing.... :(
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 03:35 AM

Tributes from world, and former world, leaders. More can be found at BBC here.

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US President George W Bush
This is a sad hour in the life of America. A great American life has come to an end.

Ronald Reagan won America's respect with his greatness, and won its love with his goodness. He had the confidence that comes with conviction, the strength that comes with character, the grace that comes with humility, and the humour that comes with wisdom.

He leaves behind a nation he restored and a world he helped save.

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British Prime Minister Tony Blair

At home, his vision and leadership restored national self-confidence and brought some significant changes to US politics.

Abroad, the negotiations of arms control agreements in his second term and his statesmanlike pursuit of more stable relations with the Soviet Union helped bring about the end of the Cold War.

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Former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher

President Reagan was one of my closest political and dearest personal friends.

He will be missed not only by those who knew him, and not only by the nation that he served so proudly and loved so deeply, but also by millions of men and women who live in freedom today because of the policies he pursued.

Ronald Reagan had a higher claim than any other leader to have won the Cold War for liberty, and he did it without a shot being fired.

To have achieved so much against so many odds and with such humour and humanity made Ronald Reagan a truly great American hero.

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Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev

I feel deep regret. For me, Ronald Reagan is a great president.

I do not know how other officials would have acted in his place at that moment, because the situation was very tense. Reagan, who was considered to be far-right, made steps toward us, and herein lies his credit.

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#32 Aurelius

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 07:59 AM

Rest in Peace President Reagan. You've earned it sir.

God Bless!

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 12:16 PM

I was too young to remember him even in Canada, BUT Rest In Peace Mr. President-actor

Edited by achile444, 06 June 2004 - 12:16 PM.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 02:46 PM

I was a child during his presidency but I still remember the speeches and the meeetings and so much more. I hope he has found peace after experiencing a horror I would wish on no one.
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Posted 07 June 2004 - 09:18 PM

Poor Mrs. Reagan... :(

I was looking at her a few minutes ago, placing her cheek on the coffin of her husband, and she had that lost look on her face. It broke my heart, because I know what she's going through. :( I see that look on my mom's face often. It's hard to believe it's going to be three years since my dad passed away...

The minister who was with Mrs. Regan told her that it will "get easier" with time, or something to that effect.

Bullsh!t!!!  :glare:


I hate, hate, HATE it when people say it gets "easier" with time.  :angry: Dammit, there is NOTHING easy about losing a loved one. A MUCH better word is "bearable". Using the word, "easier" is a tremendous insult to me, because it treats grief as flippant.

"Bearable" is more realistic-and it doesn't sound as flippant. And it's not always bearable either. I swear, whenever I hear people say that dealing with grief gets "easier" with time, I have this incredible urge to knock their teeth out.

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 09:59 PM

I think when people say "it will get easier" they are honestly trying to help.  I agree with you however that it's just not true and that bearable is a much more apt word.
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Posted 07 June 2004 - 10:12 PM

I didn't see him say anything, after her head came up. :unsure:
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Posted 07 June 2004 - 10:25 PM

Una Salus Lillius, on Jun 8 2004, 02:57 AM, said:

I think when people say "it will get easier" they are honestly trying to help.  I agree with you however that it's just not true and that bearable is a much more apt word.
I can't help it Lil-hearing people say that is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. It's flippant and insensitive to me.  :angry:

As I said, my mother cries every other day. She was married for 40 years.

Easier, my ass.

People need to think first before they try and help someone.

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Edited by 2112st, 07 June 2004 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 07 June 2004 - 10:26 PM

DWF, on Jun 8 2004, 03:10 AM, said:

I didn't see him say anything, after her head came up. :unsure:
Off CNN, I believe-and a reporter was talking about what was happening there.

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 10:35 PM

2112st, on Jun 7 2004, 08:23 PM, said:

Una Salus Lillius, on Jun 8 2004, 02:57 AM, said:

I think when people say "it will get easier" they are honestly trying to help. I agree with you however that it's just not true and that bearable is a much more apt word.
I can't help it Lil-hearing people say that is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. It's flippant and insensitive to me.  :angry:

As I said, my mother cries every other day. She was married for 40 years.

Easier, my ass.

People need to think first before they try and help someone.

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In a perfect world.  However I don't know many people that are at their best when dealing with death (of any kind let alone the death of a former president who they may have greatly admired).
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