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Election 2004 John Kerry Running mate

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#1 Ogami

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 01:31 PM

40,000 protest Bush in Turkey
http://www.cnn.com/2...t.ap/index.html

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The protest in the Kadikoy district, on the Asian side of Istanbul, attracted more than 40,000 people, mostly members of leftist groups, police said.

There were some 100 foreign protesters from Greece, Britain, The Netherlands, Portugal and Syria.

"We want to throw NATO out of Istanbul," said Dogan Aytac, a Turkish protester with a flag in his hat that read: "Get out Bush!"

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They carried banners, reading: "Down with American Imperialism," and "Go away Bush!"

Greenpeace activists carried signs against nuclear weapons. Others chanted in English: "Yankees Go Home!"


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Posted 27 June 2004 - 01:34 PM

Well they will need a strong war hero as well as a strong forigen policy guy.  Maybe someone to appeal to the common man. Strong domestic qualities would help.  Sounds like we need 30 or 40 guys to just be VP.
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#3 Ogami

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 03:57 PM

G1223 wrote:

Strong domestic qualities would help.

That leaves out Hillary Clinton.  :whistle:

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 08:43 PM

I think Jack Ryan might be out of work, shorty and I don't think his own party will want him anymore. :whistle:  ;)
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#5 Ogami

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 09:36 PM

Who's Jack Ryan? You mean the Tom Clancy character?

Is this the Alec Baldwin Jack Ryan, Harrison Ford, or Ben Affleck?

(Oh you mean the sex club guy. Well, he'd add some color to the Bush ticket, Cheney's too dull.)

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 09:42 PM

Jack Ryan is a Republican politician formerly married to actress Jeri Ryan, who recently withdrew from a race because he didn't want to deal with the kind of campaign that would result from recent revelations about the nature of their divorce. (He had tried to get her to have sex in kinky sex joints with others around to see it.)

BTW, trying to connect Kerry with Turkish protesters in a wisecrack like the first post here was pretty low. If you want to say he's unAmerican or antiAmerican, make a case from the stuff he says and does.

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 09:58 PM

Ogami, on Jun 27 2004, 10:34 PM, said:

(Oh you mean the sex club guy. Well, he'd add some color to the Bush ticket, Cheney's too dull.)

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Cheney used the "F" word to a Senator, so I don't think he's all that dull. ;)
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Posted 28 June 2004 - 03:23 AM

edited to make people happy and not tarnish the image of the 'Madonna' Clinton.

Edited by G1223, 28 June 2004 - 12:20 PM.

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 12:02 PM

^That comment goes over the line G.  Insinuating that someone you don't even know would be an accessory to murder is libelous at best and does not belong on this message board.

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 12:23 PM

I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but I don't think she wants to be LBJ.  Indeed, it sucked to be LBJ, actually.  At least while he was President anyway.  I doubt that Hillary would want that.

Anyway, I think it's probably best to not accuse people of being murderous when all they've ever been is a senator with some ambitions.  If we implied that the same level of ambition she has equates with potential assasination, I think just about everyone in Congress would be under police survalience.

So, let's not move in that direction with this thread, eh?
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Posted 28 June 2004 - 03:58 PM

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edited to make people happy and not tarnish the image of the 'Madonna' Clinton.

G, why do you always go overboard and claim that if you can't say a certain thing here, it's because everyone else obviously considers your target to be a saint or something wonderful like that? I couldn't care less for the Clintons at this point, but remain a bit suspicious about some of the things claimed about them, because I know that people love to go overboard with conspiracy theories -- so because I don't automatically believe everything you say, I think they're saints? Hardly, boy. Watch the mouth... :rolleyes:
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#12 Ogami

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 05:17 PM

Delvo wrote:

BTW, trying to connect Kerry with Turkish protesters in a wisecrack like the first post here was pretty low. If you want to say he's unAmerican or antiAmerican, make a case from the stuff he says and does.

I am shocked! (chuckle) Why, I just quoted what the protesters said, I made no observation about who they were. The article said there were representatives of Greenpeace in there, others from Europe, denouncing the "imperialism" of Bush.

Find me something in there different from the rhetoric of Alec Baldwin, Barbara Streisand, Michael Moore, Martin Sheen, Algore, or Nancy Pelosi, and I'll apologize for misconstruing the nature of the protests.  These are Kerry's people, in spirit and intent. :angel:

That's a comment in itself. And very much a real problem for Kerry. For the moderate Democrats, Kerry must distance himself from such hate-crazed kooks. For the progressive Democrats, Kerry must embrace these very same protesters. It's quite a high rope act Kerry has, I don't envy him for it. But I am in no way incorrect or imprecise in noting Kerry's difficulties. And I do so with naked glee.  :D

(Perhaps naked isn't the best term since we're discussing Jack Ryan in this thread.)

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Edited by Ogami, 28 June 2004 - 05:20 PM.


#13 Delvo

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 05:48 PM

I'm not disputing that much of what the two groups say is the same, even if not all of it and not necessarily for the same reasons. But snide cracks like that only UNDERMINE the case that could be made on that subject.

#14 Ogami

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 10:43 PM

The case is that Kerry needs both the wackos and the moderates to win, and he can't court one without insulting the other. He's in a pickle, my side just has to sit back and watch him try to please everyone.



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