Hi Ogami. I think you might be blowing this way out of context, and I say that generously, since your point about the court telling the US to die for terrorism is about the most nonsensical conclusion that could be drawn from this ruling.
Where was the World Court urging a cessation or forced halt to suicide bombings, Aric? We all know the answer to that.
I've seen a lot of rhetoric over the years over America's "intransigence" in refusing to acknowledge the authority of any UN or EU tribunal over us. This has usually been presented in terms of unenlightened Americans refusing to recognize their intellectual betters in world opinion. This is a stance I approve of, and hope to see continue throughout my adult lifetime, by the way. The current president doesn't acknowledge these snooty European snobs as his intellectual or moral betters, and neither do I.
These effete World Court intellectuals ignore real outrages of barbarity by third world dictators, by arab states pledged to the extermination of every Jew, and instead focus on how Israel is 'criminal' for daring to arm itself in the face of genocidal intent.
That sort of cultured European attitude has been the case for longer than my lifetime of course. It only has become noticable to a lot more people since these World Court clowns decided to turn their attention towards America's 'atrocities' as well. If they had their way, they'd be hauling Bush up on war crime charges because Abu Ghraib terrorists were threatened with... horrors... an unmuzzled police dog. No!
Yet this same World Court would probably look at the mountain Saddam Hussein made of mass graves, and yawn. Or they'd just blame it on post-colonial stress or something. Oops, I rambled on, let's go back to what you're actually saying.
The court isn't disputing Israel's right to protect itself, it's pointing out the wall is being used to unlawfully annex land,
Uh, so when Israel has been repeatedly attacked and invaded on all fronts by its peaceful arab neighbors, where was a World Court declaring that illegal? Israelis have every right to be suspicious of racist Europeans who want them disarmed, while no such requirement is ever suggested for their neighbors.
not to mention inflict the hardships they describe on Palestinians.
The Israelis have made the desert bloom, with hard work, with farming, with industry, and with grim determination. Name for me one Palestinian industry. One Palestinian national product. One Palestinian university dedicated to bettering the lives of its people through engineering, medicine, or culture. Instead we know what Palestinians teach in their schools, and their universities. They celebrate a culture of death, and until they get new leadership, they will remain a culture of death.
It's going to take something a tad more forceful than international condemnation to stop them.
The Israelis don't need stopped. There are over 500,000 arabs who never left Israel, who are represented in the Knesset, and who do not nurse hatred as their daily bread. The refugees await the day when Syria or Egypt (or formerly Iraq) would drive Israel into the sea and exterminate every Jew. You make peace with such people with great caution.
And how to make peace when the Palestinians simply wait and hope the World Court or someone similar will come in and settle the matter for them? Such has always been the case with a people that have not the courage to take their own destinies in their own hands.
Edited by Ogami, 10 July 2004 - 11:31 AM.