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#1 Kevin Street

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 05:33 PM

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Okay, so as I understand it, the American Congress passed something called the Help America Vote Act of 2002, which forced the states to get rid of their punch card ballots (the ones that had all those hanging chads and stuff), and gave the states billions of dollars so lots of states and counties could upgrade to electronic touch screen voting machines. It's modernization in action, right?

Right, except there's a few problems. For one thing, the machines leave no permanent record, only printouts that count for absolutely nothing. And now it would seem that the touch screens aren't the only problems.



Consumer Report Part 1: Look at this -- the Diebold GEMS central tabulator contains a stunning security hole
Submitted by Bev Harris on Thu, 08/26/2004 - 11:43.

Investigations Issue: Manipulation technique found in the Diebold central tabulator -- 1,000 of these systems are in place, and they count up to two million votes at a time.

By entering a 2-digit code in a hidden location, a second set of votes is created. This set of votes can be changed, so that it no longer matches the correct votes. The voting system will then read the totals from the bogus vote set. It takes only seconds to change the votes, and to date not a single location in the U.S. has implemented security measures to fully mitigate the risks.

This program is not "stupidity" or sloppiness. It was designed and tested over a series of a dozen version adjustments.

So Diebold has a vote fraud feature built in to their central tabulators... And for what reason, anyway? No one knows. And when you go to vote in November what assurances do you have that your votes aren't simply being erased by the push of a button and replaced by somebody else? None.

Something should be done about this.

Edited by Kevin Street, 31 August 2004 - 07:09 PM.

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#2 Rov Judicata

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 06:53 PM

I have a plan:


It just might work. :cool:.
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#3 GoldenCoal


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Posted 31 August 2004 - 07:05 PM

I remmember once I read an article some time ago where some guy who was in charge of this said that there were grave security problems, but now I find out there still are?  :eek2: ! A 2-digit code wouldn't take long to crack at all.
  I think Rov's idea has some merit.

edited for clarity

Edited by GoldenCoal, 31 August 2004 - 07:05 PM.

#4 Kimmer

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 07:54 PM

This is why when my county went to these nasty machines, we went to permanent absentee ballot status, and guess what? The absentee ballots are paper and you fill in the circle with a black pen. So simple, even a child could vote. ;)


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Edited by Pickles, 31 August 2004 - 07:55 PM.

#5 Cardie


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Posted 31 August 2004 - 07:59 PM

Greg Stillson goes national!  Or is Diebold a Manchurian Global subsidiary.

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