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#1 Nick

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 10:08 PM

Edit to add: Update, Jeanne is now projected to make landfall on the Southeast coast of Florida, and come up through central florida.  Again.

Well . . . now Jeanne's churning in the Atlantic and may strike the U.S. mainland sometime next week.  The projections are all over the place . . . she could make landfall anywhere in the Southeast.  Although, one ray of sunshine--last I heard was that she's not expected to get above a Category 2 if/when she does make landfall.  Charley wrecked Central Florida, and Frances hit us from the other side, and now Ivan has just smashed up the Panhandle.  Will Jeanne please be sensible and just veer off out to sea and dissipate?

I've dealt with two, my family's now without water and power after Ivan, and there's Jeanne (oh and Karl's way out there too) I'm over this crap. :glare:

Enough already.  Why is this hurricane season so bad????

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Edited by Nick, 23 September 2004 - 07:46 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2004 - 10:12 PM

*sigh*

((((((((((((((((((((((((Southerners))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Hope it all works out in the end.


(and now for a moment just meant to lighten the mood, nothing more...


This is why the North won... :p  we didn't have the hurricanes!!!!)


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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:26 AM

We all have something though.  In the western U.S. they have earthquakes and major forest fires.  In the north and northeast, they have the great blizzards.  Here in the mid-west, we have tornados and major climate changes.  In the east and south, its hurricanes (and waterspouts :hehe:)  Let's face it, we're all screwed.  :D

Edited to add:  Its pronounced G-Nee (as in genie in a bottle)  Not, G-Ann or G-Annie or some other weird concoction. :p

Edited again to offer: the link to the other Jeanne thread which Kosh points out the reason why hurricanes are becoming more frequent (and stronger).  Kosh's hurricane report

Edited by FnlPrblm, 17 September 2004 - 08:49 AM.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:53 AM

Hey Nick {{{{{{{nick}}}}}}}}

You have been having a really rough time of it this hurricane season, and this ceased to be amusing a long time ago

I'll cross my fingers that Jeanne heads out to deep water.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 10:19 AM

It's Jeb Bush's fault for the 2000 election? ;)

Okay-bad joke. Sorry. :lol:

Seriously-you Floridians have been through TOO much already. I have relatives there, and I'm amazed they haven't been affected.  :Oo:

I hope everything works out for the folks down there. :(

Edited by Digital Man, 17 September 2004 - 10:20 AM.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 12:21 PM

Digital Man, on Sep 17 2004, 11:19 AM, said:

It's Jeb Bush's fault for the 2000 election? ;)
I bow my head in shame to say that this did occur to me to keep in the "snappy retort" file the next time some liberal-basher got on my nerves.  :p   (But it was only a momentary temptation, really--these things are too awful to joke about.)

According to the meteorologists on Weather Channel, this hurricane's name is to be pronounced just as if it were spelled "Jean"; they added the -ne to make sure it wasn't confused with the French male name that is spelled the same way.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 10:20 PM

Either way you pronounce it, it spells Trouble with a capital T for somebody.

I hope you keep staying safe, Nick, and I am amazed at how you manage to reassure us you're OK with power outages / staying with others / etc.

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#8 Nick

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 11:10 AM

Jeanne's projected path keeps getting shifted further and further eastward.  Her path is still anybody's guess more than 3 day's out, but until then, she's staying in the Atlantic and may very well stay there till she dies (fingers crossed)

As for Karl, he's up to a hurricane status, but he's expected to track right into the middle of the Atlantic over the next five days . . . nowhere near land for the foreseeable future.  Again, hoping he stays there till he dies. :)

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Posted 20 September 2004 - 04:16 PM

However you say it, Jeanne is a killer hurricane- 250+ so far in Haiti. http://www.cnn.com/2...anne/index.html


I wish there was something that we could do about Haiti - they're so poor and the land is so deforested that a thunderstorm can kill hundreds.

I thonk NHC is a wee bit confused about Jeanne's path... their cone is a circle. http://www.wundergro...00411_5day.html


OK ... Karl is a major hurricane, but looks to be no threat to land (yippee!)


http://www.wundergro...00412_5day.html

Lisa is well organized, tiny and the next hurricane in the 2 off one on theory of this season (Alex, Bonnie, Charlie, Danielle, Earl, Frances, Gaston, Hermine, Ivan, Jeanne, Karl, Lisa ) but we don't need to worry yet.

She's not quite at hurricane strength and not quite near land yet... http://www.wundergro...00413_5day.html

And it's not over yet. Matthew and Nicole may form from something that is already on the sat maps. Just keep informed...

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Posted 20 September 2004 - 04:40 PM

250?  Meeeeeeeeeep.  :eek: :(
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Posted 21 September 2004 - 05:10 PM

Over 600 have been killed in Haiti. :(

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 05:53 PM

^ Yup. Actually, they've found 691, but many many many more are still missing.

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Edited by Shoshana, 21 September 2004 - 05:53 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2004 - 01:06 AM

Well Nick (and others in FL), I hope you didn't get too tossed around after Ivan the Second came around and side-swiped you as you were looking out into the Atlantic.  And you thought he wasn't coming for you.  :suspect: It however was pretty unique and interesting to see the reminences of a hurricane split into two seperate storm fronts and have one of them circle back around.  I haven't checked today, but last night those storms were rolling right long thru FL with minor circulation/rotation in it.   :eek2: What's up with you guys?  You have a homing beakon on down there or something? ;)  I'd throw out that new cologne you just bought.  These hurricanes like it too much.  :hehe:  What are you going to do right?  Well good luck to you all down there in the coastal states.  Hope you all in Texas aren't going to get nailed by anything but a couple thunderstorms and not a full-blown hurricane.


Question:  If the reminences of Ivan do reform into a hurricane (or tropical storm) in the Gulf of Mexico, will it be renamed or will it continue being called Ivan?  And has this split kind of thing ever happened before (that we know of)?  My dad and I couldn't think of any instances where a hurricane split in two and one of the parts reformed into a second version.
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Posted 22 September 2004 - 09:18 AM

Oh no!

Looks like they think that Jeanie NOW might head straight for South Carolina!  Cardie, get ahead of the lines and get water and stuff right away!

This has just been a dreadful storm season!!

Here's the storm track as of this morning.

:(

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 10:16 AM

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Question: If the reminences of Ivan do reform into a hurricane (or tropical storm) in the Gulf of Mexico, will it be renamed or will it continue being called Ivan? And has this split kind of thing ever happened before (that we know of)? My dad and I couldn't think of any instances where a hurricane split in two and one of the parts reformed into a second version

If it gets named it will be Matthew or Nicole, depending on when the system west of Lisa gets named. But it's still pretty weak.

What's out there? Lots: from flhurricane.com

Edited by Shoshana, 22 September 2004 - 10:19 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2004 - 12:45 PM

Appreciate, on Sep 22 2004, 10:18 AM, said:

Oh no!

Looks like they think that Jeanie NOW might head straight for South Carolina!  Cardie, get ahead of the lines and get water and stuff right away!

This has just been a dreadful storm season!!

Here's the storm track as of this morning.

:(

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Our local forecasters still think it will hit the outer banks of NC, which is where that track is heading, too.  However, I keep permanent supplies of bottled water, batteries and canned food.  Between hurricanes, ice storms, and the tendency of power lines to go out in our many thunderstorms, a South Carolinian has to have that emergency kit ready to go.

During my very first weather-related power outage in SC, I was so proud to have stocked up on all those canned goods, only to realize that I only had an electric can opener!  :D

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 02:46 PM

she's just some girl... says that ----I--- am the one..... :D

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 04:26 PM

OK ... NHC has done a u-turn on the naming of "The Remnants of Ivan" the latest info:

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Tropical Weather Outlook


Statement as of 5:30 PM EDT on September 22, 2004


For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico...
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Jeanne...drifting southward about 500 miles east of great abaco in
the northwest Bahamas...on Hurricane Karl...located about 1400
miles west-southwest of westernmost Azores...and on Tropical Storm
Lisa...located about 1200 miles west of the Cape Verde Islands.

Satellite images and surface data indicate that the area of low
pressure in the north central Gulf of Mexico...which has been
determined by the National Hurricane Center to be the remnant of
Ivan...may be redeveloping into a tropical cyclone. Squalls with
gusts near tropical storm force are already occurring near the
Louisiana coast. If a reconnaissance plane... currently approaching
the system...determines that a cyclone has reformed...advisories on
Ivan will be reinitiated.
  Upper-level winds are only marginally
favorable for additional development. This system is expected to
continue moving toward the west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
Interests along the north central and northwestern Gulf Coast and
over adjacent waters should closely monitor the progress of this
weather system and be ready to take actions...if necessary.


An area of disturbed weather centered about 950 miles west of the
Cape Verde Islands and nearing Tropical Storm Lisa is moving slowly
west-northwestward.  This system continues to be fairly
well-organized and conditions appear favorable for a tropical
depression to form tonight or Thursday.
Elsewhere...tropical storm formation is not expected through
Thursday.

Are we having fun yet?

'shana

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 05:45 PM

It's official. Ivan's back.  :eek4:

Tropical map

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 06:01 PM

Shoshana, on Sep 22 2004, 05:45 PM, said:

It's official. Ivan's back.  :eek4:

Tropical map

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Somebody has to drive a stake into this thing!  :Oo:

It just refuses to die!

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