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#1 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 10:23 AM

Minister: N. Korea Has Nuclear Deterrent

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North Korea says it has turned the plutonium from 8,000 spent nuclear fuel rods into nuclear weapons to serve as a deterrent against increasing U.S. nuclear threats and to prevent a nuclear war in northeast Asia.

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North Korea said earlier this year that it had reprocessed the 8,000 spent nuclear fuel rods and was increasing its ``nuclear deterrent'' but did not provide any details.

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``We have already made clear that we have already reprocessed 8,000 wasted fuel rods and transformed them into arms,'' he said, without elaborating on the kinds or numbers

Just more peachy news.....
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#2 MuseZack

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 10:32 AM

But wait, it gets even worse.

http://groups.msn.co...406435283784819

PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA—Responding to mounting pressure and increasingly confrontational rhetoric from the outside world, North Korean president Kim Jong Il unfolded into a 70-foot-tall, 62-ton giant robot Monday.

"The DPRK's nuclear program is very much its own business, as is its right to determine its own path of security," said Kim, his torso splitting along ventral seams as clusters of Taepo-Dong ICBMs rose from his shoulders. "Any attempt by Washington to decide our fate will surely result in a sea of fire being unleashed upon them."

As his arms and legs sheathed themselves in bulletproof Mecha-Muscle telescoping outward from his chest, Kim reiterated his refusal to bow to international demands.

"Constant criticism from outside indicates mistrust of our promise to refrain from missile tests," said Kim, speaking over the mechanical shriek of wingblades sprouting from his back. "Only trust from the U.S. that we will keep our word can prevent World War III."
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"If we add Kim Jong Il's transformation into a giant robot to his already defiant isolationist stance and his country's known nuclear capability, the diplomatic terrain definitely becomes more rocky," U.S. envoy James Kelly said. "Kim has made it clear that, if sufficiently threatened, he will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons or his arm-mounted HyperBazooka."

Added Kelly: "We are also forced to consider the possibility that Kim may attempt to robo-meld with other members of the Axis of Evil, forming a MegaMecha-Optima-Robosoldier. Kim would make a powerful right arm—or even a torso—for such a mechanism."

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 10:37 AM

All the intel on Iraq was wrong, maybe the agents can't read maps, and they meant NK all along.

This could put a crimp in any plans to invade Iran.
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 02:41 PM

So Zack, was that trying to mock the person or provide levity to an increasingly bad situation because I'm definitely confused as to your intent?
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 02:46 PM

tennyson, on Sep 28 2004, 07:41 PM, said:

So Zack, was that trying to mock the person or provide levity to an increasingly bad situation because I'm definitely confused as to your intent?

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Humor, tennyson, humor.  Why would I want to mock CJ?  He's a smart, nice person, if occasionally wrong on some issues?   :cool:
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 02:51 PM

Well, in the current environment you never know. I just had to check.
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 02:55 PM

MuseZack, on Sep 28 2004, 03:46 PM, said:

tennyson, on Sep 28 2004, 07:41 PM, said:

So Zack, was that trying to mock the person or provide levity to an increasingly bad situation because I'm definitely confused as to your intent?

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Humor, tennyson, humor.  Why would I want to mock CJ?  He's a smart, nice person, if occasionally wrong on some issues?   :cool:

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Yup CJ is a cool dude….

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#8 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 03:36 PM

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Zack: He's a smart, nice person, if occasionally wrong on some issues?   :cool:
Thanks Zack.  Ditto back at you.  :thumbs-up:
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 04:30 PM

Whats really scary - and totally unfunny - is how unabashedly serious the North Koreans are about their "Great Leader" and his father - who is worshipped as a God in North Korea - These folks are WAY serious about taking the world to hell in a handbasket.
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Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:02 PM

^The ultimate example of government gone bad and the power of propaganda at work.
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#11 Fire_Storm20

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:14 PM

We need a mushroom cloud smiley around here.  The Iranians, the North Koreans, Who is Next?

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:17 PM

Fire_Storm20, on Sep 29 2004, 01:14 AM, said:

We need a mushroom cloud smiley around here.  The Iranians, the North Koreans, Who is Next?

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Isn't there a Tom Lehrer song for this occasion?  Oh yeah, here it is (note that there's a dig at France from 1965, so some things never change):

First we got the bomb and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's O.K.,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way!
Who's next?

France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears;
They can't wipe us out for at least five years!*
Who's next?

Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white!**
Who's next?

Egypt's gonna get one, too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense,
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb!
Who's next?

Luxembourg is next to go
And, who knows, maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb!
Who's next, who's next, who's next?
Who's next?
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We shall harness for God the energies of Love.
Then, for the second time in the history of the world,
we will have discovered fire."
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Posted 29 September 2004 - 05:13 AM

CJ AEGIS, on Sep 28 2004, 09:02 PM, said:

^The ultimate example of government gone bad and the power of propaganda at work.

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Lets not forget about the block watchers, the thought police, the families held hostage, the missing neighbors, and oh yes the starving people. The starving that will do anything for a bowl of rice.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 05:27 AM

MuseZack, on Sep 28 2004, 09:17 PM, said:

Isn't there a Tom Lehrer song for this occasion?  ...

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Wasn’t there another one about the bomb. I think the title was “Oh we’ll all go together when we go.”

That had the following lines…

“When the air become uranious, we will all go simultaneous, Oh we’ll all go together when we go.”

You will all go to your respective Valhalla’s, you will not pass GO, do not collect two hundred dollars, Oh we’ll all go together when we go.”

Personally I much preferred “Poisoning the Pigeons in the Park.”

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 06:51 AM

can someone explain to me what the difference is between 'nuclear capable' and 'weapons of mass destruction' ?

Also, why oh why have I not heard plans for invasion and liberation for the pooor north koreans yet?


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Posted 29 September 2004 - 09:58 AM

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Also, why oh why have I not heard plans for invasion and liberation for the pooor north koreans yet?

Because even a coalition much fuller than the one used against Iraq couldn't win an invasion or war against North Korea. A combined carrier force from America, Britain and France may be able to win an air campaign over NK, but their army makes invasion almost impossible.
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Posted 29 September 2004 - 10:06 AM

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Wasn’t there another one about the bomb. I think the title was “Oh we’ll all go together when we go.”

Yup!  I love this one! ;)  It's from An evening wasted with Tom Lehrer

"Life is like a sewer - what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." It's always seemed to me that this is precisely the sort of dynamic, positive thinking that we so desperately need today in these trying time of crisis and universal brouhaha. And so with this in mind, I have here a modern, positive, dynamic, uplifting song, in the tradition of the great old revival hymns. This one might more accurately be termed a survival hymn. It goes like this:

When you attend a funeral,
It is sad to think that sooner or'l
Later those you love will do the same for you.
And you may have thought it tragic,
Not to mention other adjec-
Tives, to think of all the weeping they will do.
(But don't you worry.)

No more ashes, no more sackcloth,
And an arm band made of black cloth
Will some day nevermore adorn a sleeve.
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too,
There'll be nobody left behind to grieve.

And we will all go together when we go.
What a comforting fact that is to know.
Universal bereavement,
An inspiring achievement,
Yes, we will all go together when we go.

We will all go together when we go.
All suffused with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go.

Oh we will all fry together when we fry.
We'll be french fried potatoes by and by.
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie,
Yes, we will all fry together when we fry.

Down by the old maelstrom,
There'll be a storm before the calm.

And we will all bake together when we bake.
There'll be nobody present at the wake.
With complete participation
In that grand incineration,
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak.

Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that I.C.B.M.,*
And the party will be come-as-you-are.

Oh, we will all burn together when we burn.
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it's time for the fallout
And Saint Peter calls us all out,
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn.

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollahs.

And we will all go together when we go.
Every Hottentot and every Eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
We will all go simultaneous.
Yes, we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.


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Posted 29 September 2004 - 10:24 AM

Meet one of the biggest threats of the entire world now...

Can we please use a lot more diplomacy this time?!?!?!?!
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Posted 29 September 2004 - 11:09 AM

Ilphi, on Sep 29 2004, 10:58 AM, said:

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Chaddee said:
Also, why oh why have I not heard plans for invasion and liberation for the pooor north koreans yet?

Because even a coalition much fuller than the one used against Iraq couldn't win an invasion or war against North Korea. A combined carrier force from America, Britain and France may be able to win an air campaign over NK, but their army makes invasion almost impossible.

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Well that’s the essence of it, but the Red Chinese Army and some units of the Russian Air Force had something to do with it.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 11:28 AM

^ Then you have the issue of those NK nukes and the fact that they have missiles that can hit the US.
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