Nonny, on Jan 28 2005, 07:51 PM, said:
Spectacles, on Jan 28 2005, 02:44 PM, said:
My problem with the argument that some people are simply following God's commands by calling homosexuality "immoral" is that they seem to be awfully selective in which commands they follow. It's OK for men to cut their sideburns, people to wear clothes of mixed fabrics, eat shellfish, etc. Not many Christians would readily kill their children for cursing them. Yet the admonition for the Old Testament Jews not to engage in homosexual acts (with men) like the pagans (who cut their hair funny, ate shellfish, and engaged in homosexual acts during some temple worship ceremonies) still flies.
My big problem with picking and choosing is that so many conservatives who condemn homosexuals because of some verse in Leviticus are divorced and remarried in spite of Jesus's words in the Gospel of Matthew. Ronald Reagan, Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Rush Limbaugh, all adulterers according to their own Bible.
The pick and choose thing is worse than I thought. Instead of answering the question, why is it okay to divorce and remarry when Jesus denounced that in the Gospel of Matthew, but it's not okay to live the "homosexual lifestyle" because of Leviticus, the law that Jesus redeemed, some evangelical groups have redrawn the canon of the entire Bible. Now, instead of emphasis upon the words of Jesus in the Gospels, they pick and choose amongst the Epistles, Leviticus and other books to find stuff that pleases them and to ignore stuff that doesn't.
I reminded a good friend yesterday that the Bible was used to justify slavery much as it's being used today to condemn homosexuality, and he came right back with a ready response that using the Bible to justify slavery was wrong, but using it to condemn homosexuality isn't wrong due to, and I wish I could remember the term he used, but he meant that it's okay to pick and choose stuff to suit your own agenda and call it the overall intention of Jesus. He also told me that Jesus only redeemed some of Leviticus, only the parts that his church want redeemed, apparently.
Now that really disturbs me. It means that no matter how carefully you craft your own position, they'll just say that it doesn't matter.
How nice to have such certainty in your faith. How frightening for those of us who don't agree.
The once and future Nonny
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