AnneZo, on Apr 5 2003, 12:03 AM, said:
StarDust, on Apr 5 2003, 04:23 AM, said:
Because, you know, they are. In some ways they're superior. In some ways we're superior. But we're certainly "equals" in the world.
I can assure you, their countries would survive quite nicely without us. Nor do we provide "aid" in the sense of handing out money to support their economies or whatever it is you're referring to.
Anne, who has never believed that possessing an abundance
of weapons infers any kind of moral superiority.
(edited for clarity)
And yes, we do provide aid in many different ways.
We provide a lot of aid to Russia, of every kind. We provide a huge amount of money and food. We also provide a lot of economic programs. And it was widely acknowledged that having them take part in the Space Station program was white collar welfare, a way to keep their scientists paid and busy so they wouldn't go off and make weapons for Iraq, N. Korea, and other such countries. It was happening, and apperently continues to happen. The module they worked on was a year late and had to be reworked. There have been many such programs.
I'm not sure how much direct aid we provide to France, but we do through contracts their way. We have also provided economic aid to keep their Franc afloat several times over the last few decades when it was close to economic ruin.
And I believe we provide quite a bit of aid to Germany, especially since they started having to deal with the economic costs of integrating Eastern Germany. Their economy is a mess, and would be more so with out our help.
And I make no excuses. If you can't see what is wrong with their constant behavior while coming to us for help whenever they need it, then you live in an alternate reality.
Adding: in what way are they equal? What state would they be in without us? What shape would Germany be in if we didn't rebuild them? What shape would Russia be in if we hadn't rode in to the rescue after the soviet system fell under it's own weight, when people where starving and ruble was worth nothing? And do we really need to try and find any success in France in how long? They are being crushed under the weight of their socialist programs. Those are just the plain and simple facts. Where would France or Germany be if we hadn't protected them from the Soviets? And what responsiblity have any of them taken for anyone on this planet other than themselves? They can't help themselves!
You do realize the list of countries on the planet that we don't provide aid to is a much, much, much shorter list than the ones we do?
Edited by StarDust, 05 April 2003 - 08:47 AM.