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#1 Rov Judicata

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 10:36 PM

You heard me.

http://www.usatoday....-11-lynch_x.htm

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LOS ANGELES (AP) — NBC is hurrying development of a movie about the rescue of POW Jessica Lynch.

The network is meeting with potential writers and producers for a made-for-TV film intended to air early in the 2003-04 season, a network spokeswoman said Thursday.

1) Is there ANY chance we could wait for PFC Lynch's bones to heal before we start making a movie about her? She's lying in a freaking hospital bed, and NBC wants to exploit her.
2) How about waiting until this war ends to even discuss it? Our troops are still in danger; while we're doubtless closer to the end than the start, could we wait until the cessation of hostilities before we start making movies of the week? Just askin'....
3) Even *considering* using PFC Lynch's story without her permission is deeply, deeply inappropriate. What's wrong with these people?

Is it just me, or does anybody else think there's something VERY wrong here?
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 10:40 PM

Javert Rovinski, on Apr 11 2003, 01:25 PM, said:

Is it just me, or does anybody else think there's something VERY wrong here?
Trust me you are not alone in that theory...

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 10:41 PM

The working title is "Saving Private Lynch". Spielberg, it ain't.

I think there's something wrong with sending little girls overseas. I'm sorry, she's a nineteen year old supply clerk in a war zone.

If there's something wrong with making a movie out of that, what's wrong with it starts with the fact that she never should have been out there in the first place.

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 10:41 PM

I read about that I think in USA Today where they said they would do it with or without her cooperation.  Ticked me off big time.   :glare:
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:00 PM

Ohhhh come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is pathetic. Are they going to make a movie about the other captured troops....how about one about the Iraqi POW's...nope, thought not

That is gross commercialisation at it's basest level. They ought to be ashamed.

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:16 PM

Please. Someone. Just. Shoot. Me.

There's a reason I haven't watched a made for TV movie in, in, in, oh, I don't know, 25 years? That would be when this geezer was in high school and didn't know any better...

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#7 Anakam

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:19 PM

I saw the headline for this at Yahoo news last night. :Oo:

Uhh.... yeah.  If they want to make a movie about rescuing PFC Lynch, then I suggest they make a movie about all the other POW's that were rescued too.... I realize this is attractive because she's a young woman and because of the Iraqi gentleman that helped in the rescue by gathering information, but it's.... I don't like it.  There we go. :angry: :glare:

(I suppose we should be grateful that not all the major networks are scrambling to make a movie like with that shooting thing on the East Coast in the 90s--Amy something or other... can't remember her name--but it's still pretty bad....)
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:29 PM

the'Hawk, on Apr 11 2003, 07:30 PM, said:

I think there's something wrong with sending little girls overseas. I'm sorry, she's a nineteen year old supply clerk in a war zone.
We "little girls" have just as much right to be over there as the "little boys".

If was older and not in school, I'd be over there. By choice.

Anyways. I think it's very much wrong of NBC to do this, but I saw it happening long ago.

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#9 Rov Judicata

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:37 PM

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Trust me you are not alone in that theory...

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I think there's something wrong with sending little girls overseas. I'm sorry, she's a nineteen year old supply clerk in a war zone.

I disagree.

Ask PFC Lynch herself. I guarantee she'll say that women should be allowed overseas, in a war zone and all. And, frankly, she's more of an expert than either of us.

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I read about that I think in USA Today where they said they would do it with or without her cooperation. Ticked me off big time.

Me too. I'm surprised... I have no idea what the legalities are like. I guess since companies can get away with unathorized biographies, this is considered to be the same thing

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That is gross commercialisation at it's basest level. They ought to be ashamed.

Precisely Au.

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[There's a reason I haven't watched a made for TV movie in, in, in, oh, I don't know, 25 years? That would be when this geezer was in high school and didn't know any better...

I was rather fond of "Eyes Beyond Seeing". Other than that.... :eek:

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realize this is attractive because she's a young woman and because of the Iraqi gentleman that helped in the rescue by gathering information, but it's.... I don't like it. There we go

Right.

We don't need a movie; in this case, real life is much more compelling.

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Anyways. I think it's very much wrong of NBC to do this, but I saw it happening long ago.

I was hoping it wouldn't. I guess I'm naive.
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:39 PM

I think I'm going to puke.
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:46 PM

^ Amy Fisher? They already made a TV movie about her.

But the reason they're focussing on Jessica Lynch and not on the other POWs --and I hate to say it, but the thread is labelled-- is probably because she's female. Think about it, she's a damsel in distress who can take out a few and look good doing it, before she needs to be rescued. She's a modern-day nineteen year old Beka Valentine. And that's what makes her story so attractive-- because the whole story just has a feel-good-about-a-bad-war tinge to it that no Hollywood schlock lord could pass up on.

If America ever needed a reason to feel good about this three-week ass-whupping ---if America ever needed to show the honour in kicking the sh*t out of an adversary that never had a chance---then Jessica Lynch is it.

But just to clarify a point that I made earlier, and to make perfectly clear the one I'm trying to make now.... nothing I'm saying should be taken as a sweeping statement on women in combat. Rather the opposite: I think women have every place in combat that men do, and that any use of anyone, regardless of gender or religion or skin colour or whatever to a warlike end is inherently a bad idea.

Put this another way, though. If Jessica Lynch was black or Hispanic, if she was Jewish or Islamic, if she was male.... would she be as well-known and as lionized as she has been for surviving eight days without food in that hospital?

And put this another way. You mean to tell me that any such movie will treat her captors, who administered some medical aid, who probably weren't eating themselves, who buried the corpses of the rest of her unit instead of lynching their remains or something---- you mean to tell me those guys are going to get off without being turned into complete diabolical puppy-shooting bastards? This girl's going to be tied to a railroad track by the time the movie's over, Saddam twirling his mustaches in the background.

I can't even tell you how disheartening that is.

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 11:48 PM

*nods at ET*

Hawk-- It gets "better". Did you know that Lynch won a beauty contest before shipping out? If I'm not mistaken, it was state-wide.

The networks couldn't have *asked* for a more exploitable story.
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:25 AM

Her Dad said that she asked if she had made the local paper, in Palistine. Unless they have told her in the last few days, she still doesn't kinow that she is now world wide. I think he folks handled it all very well. I had no doubt that there would be a movie. It would be nice if she profitted from any movie or books, but her family is made of sturn stuff. They will not OK anything quickly. Most of it will probably end up being without her consent.

On another note, the town(and I use that term loosley) of Malden, WV, has extended an offer to the Iraqi man who assisted in her resque. They are trying to bring him and his family here to live. Malden consists of two grocery stores, and funeral home( which buried both of my folks) a church and a bunch of houses, and is one of the oldest communities in WV. We used to live right outside of Malden, but moved 10 minutes away in 1970.
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:26 AM

Oh, good grief... give me a freaking break... there's a reason I attempt to ignore the Entertainment Industry, and things like this are it...

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I think there's something wrong with sending little girls overseas. I'm sorry, she's a nineteen year old supply clerk in a war zone.

Well, quite apart from the fact that I ethically and morally object to war itself... though I know it's human nature and some get off on it... if a woman wants to serve in the military, *let her*. There were times in my life when I wanted to join up, because I do believe in protecting my country. (See, though, I don't believe in pre-emptive strikes. I guess that makes me a disloyal traitor.) I knew, though, that I'd be insulted to within an inch of my life by guys who'd be pissed off by my being around them, and felt it wasn't worth the effort, that I could do other work that would somehow serve. (I felt that library work, helping provide information to the public, was a pretty good substitute.)

My mother tried, in the early '50s, to join the Marines -- mostly to get away from her parents. (Yes, the Marines.) She got one of the two highest scores on the test (the highest was another woman), but was never contacted by them. So much for that plan.

Anyway, Lynch is 19. That's not a little girl. She fought really hard to survive and killed a few of the enemy -- she's not a little girl.

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I think women have every place in combat that men do, and that any use of anyone, regardless of gender or religion or skin colour or whatever to a warlike end is inherently a bad idea.

Well, yes, *war* is a bad idea, but unfortunately human nature. (Or to quote the title of a book by Chris Hedges, _War is a Force That Gives Us Meaning_.) Since we apparently will never outgrow war, then let those who want to serve do so.

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If Jessica Lynch was black or Hispanic, if she was Jewish or Islamic, if she was male.... would she be as well-known and as lionized as she has been for surviving eight days without food in that hospital?

We'll never know. The other woman in her group, Piestewa (sadly, I've forgotten her first name), was Hopi Indian, but she died. (Her brother was hoping desperately, saying if anyone could survive, she would; she was tough.) If she'd survived, would she be lionized now? Again, we'll never know.
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:31 AM

the'Hawk, on Apr 11 2003, 09:35 PM, said:

^ Amy Fisher? They already made a TV movie about her.
Yeah, I think that's who I was thinking of.  Three, if I recall--one each by CBS, NBC, and ABC.  Unless one of them bowed out, which I don't think happened... :rolleyes:
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:47 AM

Words cannot even begin to express how terribly inappropriate this plan is...

They don't even know if her comrades are dead or alive, and they're *already* talking about making a movie about her? That's *very* low class, folks.

If they want to make a movie, fine. But they should at least have the common courtesy to wait until the war is over to start exploiting the soldiers that fought in it. And make no mistake: This is not a World War II type film. This is sensationalism and exploitation, pure and simple.

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Posted 12 April 2003 - 08:08 AM

Norville, on Apr 11 2003, 09:15 PM, said:

We'll never know. The other woman in her group, Piestewa (sadly, I've forgotten her first name), was Hopi Indian, but she died. (Her brother was hoping desperately, saying if anyone could survive, she would; she was tough.) If she'd survived, would she be lionized now? Again, we'll never know.
Lori Ann Piestewa.  I understand she was the mother of two preschool-aged children. :(  :(

And Rov....yes, very wrong.  Except that I don't think wrong even covers it.

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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:12 PM

Peridot, I agree with you the word 'wrong' so so inadequate as to ludicrous.

To make this movie...it to me denigrates the many, and possiblely ultimate, sacrifices others of our soldiers have made.


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Posted 12 April 2003 - 12:49 PM

the'Hawk, on Apr 11 2003, 03:35 PM, said:

And put this another way. You mean to tell me that any such movie will treat her captors, who administered some medical aid, who probably weren't eating themselves, who buried the corpses of the rest of her unit instead of lynching their remains or something---- you mean to tell me those guys are going to get off without being turned into complete diabolical puppy-shooting bastards? This girl's going to be tied to a railroad track by the time the movie's over, Saddam twirling his mustaches in the background.
Or, better yet, have the Iraqi doctor who helped in the rescue do it not because he was upset with her treatment, but because he was... in love with her!  

Isn't that such a brilliant idea?!  Oh sure, that might take away some of the honor of what the guy did, but every good story can be improved by a nice love story, right?

:sarcasm:  Can you tell this disgusts me?

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Posted 12 April 2003 - 04:57 PM

If not NBC, then somebody else would've made the movie, and it is very a hero's story. And I'm sure that when it airs, the war will be over, so far this is just talk, there's been no casting, or filming yet. I also think we should wait and see, what they do with the storyline. TV movies of real people, are made all the time, so I don't see this as different from the others. :ninja:

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