You know Zwolf I gotta take offense at your last statment there. Just because people agree with their church's stand on things doesn't mean they have any less value as people.
******* I'm very sorry if you must take offense, but that is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. If people are so small-minded that they have to remove from their midst anyone who doesn't completely conform or deviate from their norm, then, to me, they are
worthless. I wouldn't have ‘em with me on a bet, because such people are a liability, not an asset. I am not completely egalitarian. People are not "worth" something - in my eyes - just because they're a warm body who showed up. A person's worth is in what they bring to the table - be that intelligence, skill, or, lacking that, simply good will. These people seem to have none of the above. We're talking about a church
- it deals with religion or morality. People who agree with that church's expulsion of people based on political beliefs are overstepping their bounds and aggressively
wrapping themselves in idiocy. So, sorry, but I consider such people of very little worth. Political ideology is no indicator of a person's morality, their religion, or any other such thing. Not only can
you belong to a political party and disagree with many of its tenets, but you should
, because total conformity would get in the way of independent thought. So, sorry we disagree, but that's how I see it.
As for being told how to vote. That's part of the purpose of the clergy; to convey to the members what their church's teaching on various issues are and to guide them in how they can support those teachings.
******* No it is not. The purpose of the clergy is to offer religious and moral instruction. It is up to the individual to decide what party reflects their beliefs. We elect people to run the country, not
to offer or enforce morality. That is up to the individual.
As to your position that the churches should be charitable organizations . That is another component of their existance yes, but it's not the only one. My own parish holds monthly and during lent weekly Friday night public suppers. Between 300 and 400 people attend each of these, all of the funds collected go to local charitable organizations. That's only one component of our outreach program and it's far from everything we are about.
******* Based on what they preach, churches are supposed
to help the poor and less fortunate. That's what Jesus preached. I have little sympathy with churches buying up real estate and amassing wealth. Juxtaposed to what Jesus taught, that's absolute hypocrisy, and one of the reasons I'm not a big fan of religions.
Weatherpanther since you snuck in while I was setting up my response I'll leave my statement for you too. The pastor has every right to teach his congregation and make recommendations as to who out there in the political arena best supports his denomination or individual church's doctrinally held position. If his church starts providing monetary contributions to those candidates I'd have to agree with you, but that is not the case here from the info we have available.
******** If churches want to get involved in the secular side, fine. Then they can start paying taxes like every other secular organization.