Kevin Street, on Jun 1 2005, 08:44 PM, said:
Note in advance: I'm not talking about anyone specifically here.
The problem is that, on a certain level, it's fun
to argue. If we didn't enjoy it we wouldn't do it so much here. I think the solution (if there is one) is for us to find enjoyment in other non-partisan topics, or discussions that don't turn into arguments. True debate is like fencing, and it can be fun all on its own.
Yes... lively debate, even ones with little "zingers" in them can be envigorating... I would be all in favor of people simply announcing that that's the kind of thread they want - then people who want to participate can... and on the other hand, people should respect when someone says that that kind of debate isn't welcome. Actually, I think OT has, for the most part, reached that level where people can say - this kind of discourse isn't welcome in this thread, and have it mostly respected. But it really does have to be respected. And when it isn't, I think its fair game to call people on it - especially in a way that doesn't invite more argument.
sierraleone, on Jun 1 2005, 08:47 PM, said:
That another thing I don't like, for example there will be an issue that partisan pickering isn't really called for, but because someone advocated a position one party would, someone else will take a personal and/or partisan swipe at them that completely derails the thread and isn't what the topic was about. Then the other person comes back with the similar attitude and/or response... Just as bad as starting it is keeping it going. So this could give some people, who otherwise normally retaliate the same way, another way to confront them and ignorn them at the same time. Sort of saying "I've seen what you wrote, its off topic/inappropiate, I'm not going to respond to it, but I'm going to actually talk about the topic"
If I made sense
You made plenty of sense.
I agree with you wholeheartely.