[QUOTE] Chipper and Gode I'm sure you didn't INTEND to come off sounding anti semitic. However, I have to agree with Jill in how it came off. Holocaust victims are still alive. But you know what even if they weren't so what? The wrong was still done. Is there a time limit on seeking restitution just because they're Jews?[/QUOTE]
EDIT: okay, didn't work right...
there isn't a time limit. And the wrong was a terrible one. Restituion is deserved. I just don't believe that modern France should be punished for Vichy France. And AnneZo said that the next government should be responsible for the past one, but how can that work? Should a new government, created by the people who overthrew the past one, be punished for the people overthrowed? I don't think so.
And Chipper, why SHOULDN'T victims of the holocaust continue to seek reparation if the wrong was in fact done? In 40 years are you going to claim that the victims of 9-11 should just "get over it" or let it go?
Again, not saying you intended to come across like you did but trying to explain why it *did* come across as it did to several people. I don't intend to drive anyone away or suggest that they are hate mongerers here but, as Jill said, I'm calling this as I see it.
I don't think they should let it go at all. It is something that should remain in the consciousness of all people. It's the demands for payment that I don't agree with, despite the fact that I *do* believe that the victims deserve restitution of some sort. However, the problem is where does this payback come from? A government that wasn't around during the Holocaust? A population that wasn't around or was very young at the time? There is no easy answer to what the victims deserve and how they should go about getting it...there never is. But IMO, somethings will never be able to be repayed, and this is probably one of them. That's MO, and it's obvious people disagree.
And I see why people took my statements more harshly then I intended them to. I did the same with Jill's. I'm at fault, and so are other people here because of misunderstanding.
Opinions are appreciated. However, feelings of "hatemongering" aren't something that I associate with myself, or anyone else here. [/QUOTE]
Lesse if the quoting thing worked, as my mouse froze up here....
Argh! Screw it! :-P
Edited by Chipper, 17 April 2003 - 10:09 PM.
"Courtesy is how we got civilized. The blind assertion of rights is what threatens to decivilize us. Everybody's got lots of rights that are set out legally. Responsibilities are not enumerated, for good reason, but they are set into the social fabric. Is it such a sacrifice to not be an a**hole?"
- Jenny Smith on Usenet, via Jid, via Kathy