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#61 Cheile

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 08:56 PM

Aurelius, on Aug 31 2005, 04:48 PM, said:

Here's a direct quote, apologies to anyone offended (and i know I was and I'm not American, gay or anything connected)

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Thank God for Katrina - New Orleans, symbol of America, seen for what it is: a putrid, toxic, stinking cesspool of fag fecal matter.† "It is a sin NOT to rejoice when God executes His wrath and vengeance upon America" "Pray for more dead bodies floating on the fag-semen-rancid waters of New Orleans."

How unbelieveably twisted it this.  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

And these "people" (although that word barely applies to such) have the audacity and the nerve to say that God supports them!!!! Sickening.

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they aren't "people", Aurelius.  they're freaks.  and that's all i can say without saying words not permitted here on the Isle.  :glare:

maybe the next tornado that rips through Kansas will take the whole lot of them out if we're lucky.

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 08:58 PM

Cheile, on Aug 31 2005, 07:56 PM, said:

they aren't "people", Aurelius.  they're freaks.  and that's all i can say without saying words not permitted here on the Isle.  :glare:

maybe the next tornado that rips through Kansas will take the whole lot of them out if we're lucky.

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Mindboggling.  That's exactly what Phelps and his lot are saying about gays.
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 08:58 AM

The Masked Coyote, on Aug 31 2005, 05:58 PM, said:

Cheile, on Aug 31 2005, 07:56 PM, said:

they aren't "people", Aurelius.  they're freaks.  and that's all i can say without saying words not permitted here on the Isle.  :glare:

maybe the next tornado that rips through Kansas will take the whole lot of them out if we're lucky.

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Mindboggling.  That's exactly what Phelps and his lot are saying about gays.

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Really?  I thought it was a rather mild reaction to the shock of reading Phelps in the raw.  

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 04:27 PM

Here's another example of something "mindboggling."

Sean Hannity covered this on his radio show--and used it as an opportunity to hammer the "anti-war left." I kid you not. Of course, in order to do that, he had to mislead his audience about the real nature of the protest. But all's fair in propaganda.



http://mediamatters....ms/200508310004

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From the August 30 broadcast of ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show:

HANNITY: Let me read to you from Indianapolis. Headline: "Funeral for fallen Hoosier soldier brought some unwanted guests." Let me read this. Now, put this in the context of the story we did for you last week about Code Pink and about how Code Pink was protesting in front of Walter Reed Medical Center. Remember, they had their "Maimed for Lies" signs and "Enlist Here and Die for Halliburton" signs? And this is where these soldiers come back to try and get their lives together after receiving these awful, often life-threatening wounds. And yet, these people with political agendas are outside Walter Reed Medical Center protesting. And my point to them was, "Hey, look, if you want to protest, let's leave the injured soldiers alone, they need time to recuperate. Take it to the White House. Take it to some other area."

So anyway, the story in Indianapolis goes like this, quote: "Emotions ran high for an Army soldier's funeral in Martinsville on Sunday. Sgt. Jeremy Doyle's sacrifice brought many out to honor him, but also sparked a standoff on a city street. People arriving to say goodbye to a hometown hero met an altogether different scene in Martinsville, as demonstrators dragging American flags on the ground and holding signs opposing U.S. troops. 'The thing that got us here is that Sergeant Doyle died for us to give us our freedom, and then you have people like this come. It's absurd,' one funeral attendee told News 8 in Indianapolis. Tensions grew before demonstrations [sic: demonstrators] finally left their location right across the street from Army Sgt. Jeremy Doyle's funeral service. According to the group's website, it sees America's -- Americans' deaths in Iraq as a kind of punishment for social misdeeds. Martinsville residents said that the protesters picked the wrong time in the wrong town to express their views. Which rightfully -- so they have their freedom of expression. Nobody's going to take that away from them, but there is a time and a place for this kind of thing, and it's certainly not here today."

Now, who's Jeremy Doyle? Well, he died along with three other soldiers on August the 18th, when their Humvee hit a landmine on an Iraqi highway. This guy died for all of us. His final journey was a procession down Main Street, past the courthouse square. "'If I had to lose a son, if I had to lose one, I'd -- I'd rather it be serving our country,' his father explained. The protesters were headquartered in Kansas. They traveled across the country to demonstrate against a soldier." And you know something? I guess this is just another example of how the anti-war left supports our brave troops. 'Cause isn't that what they always say? They're disrupting the funeral, tormenting a grieving family. Can you believe I even have to bring this story to the airwaves? And creating an incredible spectacle in the middle of an occasion to honor a guy who died serving his country? But of course, they're supporting our troops. They're not supporting them; they're targeting our troops!

What's the difference between this or protesting outside the entrance to Walter Reed, where our wounded soldiers go to recover? I mean, these sol -- just can't believe that our soldiers and our -- and their families have to endure this pathetic atta -- these pathetic attacks, these chants, these posters as they enter and leave a hospital.

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 08:52 PM

Nonny, on Sep 1 2005, 06:58 AM, said:

The Masked Coyote, on Aug 31 2005, 05:58 PM, said:

Cheile, on Aug 31 2005, 07:56 PM, said:

they aren't "people", Aurelius.† they're freaks.† and that's all i can say without saying words not permitted here on the Isle.† :glare:

maybe the next tornado that rips through Kansas will take the whole lot of them out if we're lucky.

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Mindboggling.  That's exactly what Phelps and his lot are saying about gays.

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Really?  I thought it was a rather mild reaction to the shock of reading Phelps in the raw.  

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Coyote, please go troll somewhere else.  Phelps and his cult of inbreds would be better off dead instead of existing purely to give REAL Christians a bad name and incite hate crimes.

though perhaps it will take them disrupting a funeral of someone you care about or celebrating the death of someone you care about by sticking a counter on their website saying "______ has been burning in hell for XXX days" for you to see the light.

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 09:45 PM

I was led to believe that the "t" word wasn't to be thrown around like that.

I was simply pointing out that your level of...what's the appropriate word?...intolerance of other viewpoints roughly parallels Phelps' and his gaggle-o-freaks.  It's interesting to me how supposedly divergent viewpoints rarely are divergent...an example would be the Nazis and the Communists during WWII.

Twain was right.  History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 10:02 PM

I have to say that I don't think Coyote has trolled in this thread.  He was pointing out (rightly so imo) the irony of classifying Phelps and his ilk as unhuman in light of the fact that Phelps and his ilk engage in precisely the same kind of extreme judgment.  

Unfortunately HUMANS are capable of quite a lot of things that it might be easier to deny as human by dehumanizing those who do such things.  The danger in that is underestimating the human potential for evil.  It's the kind of thing that helped people be so resistant to the idea of some of the greater atrocities committed in history (see how I'm not Godwinizing the thread?  I think I've grown...).

Honest Cheile, in this case I think you're being a bit unfair.  You're entitled to your opinion but people are entitled to disagree too.
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Posted 02 September 2005 - 09:23 AM

if this is an episode of friends, it's the one where Phelps officially loses it

http://www.godhatesf...g-of-sweden.pdf

This is from his own website mind you, but I have a hard time accepting it as real. He basically threatens the king of Sweden, calls him and his family gay, and then demands political protection for his visit.

I truly believe he is going insane.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 10:46 AM

Godeskian, on Sep 2 2005, 08:23 AM, said:

I truly believe he is going insane.

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*Going?* :eh:

I'd say he's long out of the park.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:07 PM

Jid, on Sep 2 2005, 09:46 AM, said:

Godeskian, on Sep 2 2005, 08:23 AM, said:

I truly believe he is going insane.

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*Going?* :eh:

I'd say he's long out of the park.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 06:28 PM

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He was pointing out (rightly so imo) the irony of classifying Phelps and his ilk as unhuman in light of the fact that Phelps and his ilk engage in precisely the same kind of extreme judgment.

i find it interesting that many others have echoed my sentiment yet i'm targeted for quoting.  perhaps they should think how those families feel--their mourning is disrupted by these examples of slime from the gutter.

as for said sentiment, if the shoe fits, Phelps and his cult should wear it.  they have no right disrupting funerals, which is the original topic of this thread.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 07:13 PM

They have no moral right to disrupt funerals.  They probably have no right to trespass on private property.  They DO have a right to voice their opinion, disruptive or not.  

As for you being targetted, I'm sorry you feel that way but you started the thread and the mere fact that someone disagrees with you does not mean you are being targetted.  Just a thought.

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 10:32 AM

You, you, you! Enough about yous.
OK, here's the "dance" they do... Most states have laws against the impediment of funerals so they don't touch them. They heckle, they shout, they hold signs. All these protected acts are legal as long as they happen without getting in the way going TO the funeral and burial. Just because they can't see beyond sex, just because they can't see a mother and father have lost a child, they think it's their "job" to make them feel worse.
What makes it more evil is that they're almost wanting somebody to lash out at them so they can hop up on their high horse and call THEM evil. Yet their target of hate isn't likely to deal out the kind of "reply" they deserve. Mourners. If they protested like that at a clan or panthers meeting half of them would get shot. Maybe they should go to New York and protest a "Mafia" Catholic church? See if they make it out of town?
On the "rev." himself, have you ever seen a video of him? You know he's nuts by how little he blinks.  :eek4: When he looks around he has no eyelids if he's not blinking either. That's how to spot the nutjobs, when their eyes bug out so open they can only see what they want to see. I wouldn't be surprised to find them in the news some day with purple veils over their faces, castrated and in matching suits while being hauled to the morgue. (Yes, I think they're another sick cult.)
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