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#1 Lord of the Sword

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 10:18 PM

Here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9273033/

OK, so due to public outcry, and the uncovering of the fact that Brown lied to get his job, and his now relieved of Katrina duties...now, out of the blue, FEMA ends a program that would give aide, quickly, to those that need it.

Sorry, to me this just seems like FEMA's pissed about Brown's being relieved and is now deciding to strike back.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 10:21 PM

This is what happens when you have inexperienced people trying to tell others what to do!  You end up with a mess and embarrassement.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 10:30 PM

Well, I wasn't in favor of the Debit Card thing, it was a nightmare waiting to happen, but I am even less in favor of the "Direct Deposit" replacement plan. I'll bet some of these people don't have bank accounts.  They are poor.  Poor people tend to live pay check to pay check, so there's no reason to put money in a bank.. and have bank charges for an account.

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 10:31 PM

Yahoo just posted that too, although it's largely about, ahem, Brown.

http://news.yahoo.co...rina_washington
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#5 Lord of the Sword

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:28 PM

Cait, on Sep 9 2005, 10:30 PM, said:

Well, I wasn't in favor of the Debit Card thing, it was a nightmare waiting to happen, but I am even less in favor of the "Direct Deposit" replacement plan. I'll bet some of these people don't have bank accounts.  They are poor.  Poor people tend to live pay check to pay check, so there's no reason to put money in a bank.. and have bank charges for an account.

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I was in favor of the debit card program...to help the victims get back on their feet, as a start.

The whole direct deposit idea is absurd, and lengthy. And the mere fact that they are suspending the debit card program after Brown is replaced concerning Katrina just smacks of spite to me.
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#6 eloisel

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 12:45 AM

I think the suspension of the program came about because of the problems in trying to implement it.  Good idea, just not real workable with this amount of people and the extent of individual loss.  

However, the deposits in individual bank accounts is highly problematic as well.  As pointed out, many of those people are not going to have bank accounts.  Is there any mention on the FEMA site on how people without a bank account are to receive their share of disaster relief?

Are banks giving people lacking in jos, identification/documentation, and/or a permanent residence a bank account?

The loss of personal documentation and identification is going to be a big problem for many evacuees.  Is there an effort to get these people replacements?

#7 Tricia

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 05:49 AM

The direct deposit idea does have its problems as many don't have bank accounts...currently.

I do know that banks in Texas are working on suspending some of the requirements they have to open an account now...in order to make it easier for folks to open an account.

I'll have to go look up a link to the article where I read that

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 10:00 AM

I heard on the news the other night that the program was shut down due to high fraud risks.
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#9 Lord of the Sword

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 11:15 AM

eryn, on Sep 10 2005, 10:00 AM, said:

I heard on the news the other night that the program was shut down due to high fraud risks.

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I can understand that concern, but surely they have ways of finding out who is a victim and who isn't.
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Posted 11 September 2005 - 03:15 AM

I read some place where the people applying for aid had to provide identification and the address where they lived so it can be verified that they are who they say they are and are in the predicament they are in because of the hurricane.  I'm wondering how many people got out of there with their identification intact.  If the majority of people didn't leave because they didn't have cars, then I wonder if they had drivers' licenses.  Perhaps they had some sort of state accepted identification card.  If so, I wonder how many of them had current addresses on that ID.  I'm always wondering.

#11 Natolii

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Posted 11 September 2005 - 08:24 AM

And where did it leave the people that took the warnings seriously and evacuated to areas other than Texas?

High and dry with an inefficent computer or phone system as their only means of recourse.
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 01:45 PM

LORD of the SWORD, on Sep 9 2005, 08:28 PM, said:

Cait, on Sep 9 2005, 10:30 PM, said:

Well, I wasn't in favor of the Debit Card thing, it was a nightmare waiting to happen, but I am even less in favor of the "Direct Deposit" replacement plan. I'll bet some of these people don't have bank accounts.† They are poor.† Poor people tend to live pay check to pay check, so there's no reason to put money in a bank.. and have bank charges for an account.

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I was in favor of the debit card program...to help the victims get back on their feet, as a start.

The whole direct deposit idea is absurd, and lengthy. And the mere fact that they are suspending the debit card program after Brown is replaced concerning Katrina just smacks of spite to me.

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Never mind that for most of these people, their local bank branch is..um..under water.  :crazy:
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Posted 12 September 2005 - 01:53 PM

The only people getting the debit cards were those in the Astrodome.  

Do you really think that the people picked off of rooftops thought ahead to bring their ID?  There is going to be a lot of identification fraud if much is offered to evacuees.  People fraudulantly claimed to have loved ones lost in 9-11 to get the payouts offered to families, and I have no doubt that people will pretend to be New Orleans Evacuees if it gets them something special.  
Not that this should be reason to not offer anything, just that it will be very hard to offer much fairly.

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