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#1 Zaugur Anasazi

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:12 PM

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:20 PM

I know that a few of the refugees that are currently residing in my town plan to just stay here.   They don't want to go back, since there's nothing there, anyway, and they got the bejesus scared out of them there.  People are trying to help them find local jobs and stuff.

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:44 PM

What Zwolf said is also true of some of the evacuees from NOLA who have some to Arizona.  Some sound like they want to stay here and not go back.

If you owned property, though I'd think you'd want to take another look at what was left when you were allowed back in the New Orleans or whatever other area.   Getting insurance settlements all  done could take several months at least.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:47 PM

Since FEMA, along WITH local government agencies, were responsible for the lack of response in regards to Katrina...I say we move those officials out of their homes, put those homeless due to Katrina in those officials homes.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:52 PM

According to one company, They are going to completely write off houses in some areas.

My friend has said she and her family are heading for higher ground. If they can salvage the house, they will fix it up and sell it. If not they take what they can get.

She has received a letter from FEMA stating that they will cover everything that Insurance won't.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 01:53 PM

Natolii, on Sep 13 2005, 01:52 PM, said:

According to one company, They are going to completely write off houses in some areas.

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Hence the reason for the delayed response from the government. Why take land through imminent domain, and all the hassles involved with it, when you can just take your time and let mother nature do it for you.

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Edited by LORD of the SWORD, 13 September 2005 - 03:25 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:18 PM

Just to point something out. I don't think most of these people like being called "refugees".
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:32 PM

eryn, on Sep 13 2005, 02:18 PM, said:

Just to point something out. I don't think most of these people like being called "refugees".

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All of the 40 or so I've talked to have called themselves refugees, generally while mocking people who say they shouldn't be called refugees. So I'm sticking with it.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:44 PM

I admit I'm morbidly fascinated by the medium and long-term effects that one of the biggest internal migrations in American history will have on our culture and politics.  This is comparable to the Dust Bowl migration of the Okies to California (where three generations later you can still hear the accents in places like Ukiah and Clear Lake) or the migration of Southern blacks to the industrial cities of the north after WWI.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:47 PM

eryn, on Sep 13 2005, 04:18 PM, said:

Just to point something out. I don't think most of these people like being called "refugees".

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No, It is the Politically Correct SOB's like Oprah and Jesse Jackson that don't like it. The Media is the one that started this trend... Not the people themselves. The people have more important things to worry about, like surviving.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:54 PM

Natolii, on Sep 13 2005, 03:47 PM, said:

No, It is the Politically Correct SOB's like Oprah and Jesse Jackson that don't like it. The Media is the one that started this trend... Not the people themselves. The people have more important things to worry about, like surviving.

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THANK YOU!

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 03:57 PM

How is THAT word supposed to be bad? Is there ANY word in the English language some doofus whon't whine about? And what in the world ELSE is there to call a refugee?

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 04:02 PM

LORD of the SWORD, on Sep 13 2005, 04:54 PM, said:

Natolii, on Sep 13 2005, 03:47 PM, said:

No, It is the Politically Correct SOB's like Oprah and Jesse Jackson that don't like it. The Media is the one that started this trend... Not the people themselves. The people have more important things to worry about, like surviving.

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THANK YOU!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Me and a few others harshed this one out on another board I hang out on. Then again, the site has an unmoderated forum so it was interspaced with more colorful language...

I called NBC hypocritical because if you live down south, you cannot be called a refugee, but if you are a german jew that escaped during WWII you are a refugee...
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 04:10 PM

I definitely don't use the word "refugee" with any disrespect intended.  I don't want to call them "victims" because that's has worse connations to me, plus it's not clear enough - people who died were also victims of the storm, although they're not refugees.   "Displaced persons" is just plain too long.  "Katrina's diaspora?"   I dunno.  I'm stickin' with "refugee," because there's nothing insulting about it.

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 05:29 PM

MuseZack, on Sep 13 2005, 04:44 PM, said:

I admit I'm morbidly fascinated by the medium and long-term effects that one of the biggest internal migrations in American history will have on our culture and politics.  This is comparable to the Dust Bowl migration of the Okies to California (where three generations later you can still hear the accents in places like Ukiah and Clear Lake) or the migration of Southern blacks to the industrial cities of the north after WWI.

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I saw this briefly discussed by a local and a new arrival in Utah, how the people arriving there if they stayed were going to be adding something really different to the local culture.

Delvo, on Sep 13 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

How is THAT word supposed to be bad? Is there ANY word in the English language some doofus whon't whine about? And what in the world ELSE is there to call a refugee?

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Well some people are calling them evacuees. I guess the PC issue with refugees is it implies they are impoverished and without means and that denigrates their character. Not that I agree.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 09:19 PM

LORD of the SWORD, on Sep 13 2005, 06:47 PM, said:

Since FEMA, along WITH local government agencies, were responsible for the lack of response in regards to Katrina...I say we move those officials out of their homes, put those homeless due to Katrina in those officials homes.

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Why stop there?  Let's move up higher!  What about moving some of these homeless people into Bush's ranch at Crawford?   :lol:
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 09:26 PM

Call Me Robin, on Sep 13 2005, 09:19 PM, said:

Why stop there?  Let's move up higher!  What about moving some of these homeless people into Bush's ranch at Crawford?   :lol:

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You should warn people before making comments like that. LMAO!
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 09:28 PM

Call Me Robin, on Sep 14 2005, 02:19 AM, said:

LORD of the SWORD, on Sep 13 2005, 06:47 PM, said:

Since FEMA, along WITH local government agencies, were responsible for the lack of response in regards to Katrina...I say we move those officials out of their homes, put those homeless due to Katrina in those officials homes.

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Why stop there?  Let's move up higher!  What about moving some of these homeless people into Bush's ranch at Crawford?   :lol:

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Hey, even Nero threw open the gardens of his own estates to homeless refugees of the great Roman fire of 64 AD, so why not?  Actually, Nero gets kind of a bum rap from popular history.  According to contemporary historians, he actually ran around the city without his bodyguards, directing firefighting efforts, and later provided subsidized grain and emergency shelters to the homeless.  The playing his lyre (fiddles hadn't been invented) thing was an unsubstantiated rumor.
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 10:20 PM

Delvo, on Sep 13 2005, 01:57 PM, said:

How is THAT word supposed to be bad? Is there ANY word in the English language some doofus whon't whine about? And what in the world ELSE is there to call a refugee?

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I have to agree with you here.  Our culture is so moderated by the PC police we can't even use accurate terminology to describe people any longer.  

I'm hoping that using the word "survivor" won't offend anyone.  I'm just calling them Hurricane survivors.   So far no one has hit me.

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Posted 13 September 2005 - 11:32 PM

Cait, on Sep 13 2005, 11:20 PM, said:

Delvo, on Sep 13 2005, 01:57 PM, said:

How is THAT word supposed to be bad? Is there ANY word in the English language some doofus whon't whine about? And what in the world ELSE is there to call a refugee?

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I have to agree with you here.  Our culture is so moderated by the PC police we can't even use accurate terminology to describe people any longer.  

I'm hoping that using the word "survivor" won't offend anyone.  I'm just calling them Hurricane survivors.   So far no one has hit me.

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It's not going to offend the average person, Cait. It's people like Jesse Jackson and Oprah that got the ball rolling... and NBC fell for it Hook, line and Stinker.
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