Robert Hewitt Wolfe, on Sep 23 2005, 05:17 PM, said:
eloisel, on Sep 18 2005, 10:05 PM, said:
False syllogism. In your list of previous terrorist actions, you include the many attacks on US servicemen and diplomatic personnel deployed on foreign soil (Lebanon, the Cole, etc), then you try to exclude similar attacks from Bush's record. A fair comparison has to either exclude all attacks on US military personnel and diplomatic personnel deployed overseas or include them for both Bush and his predecessors.
First, please do not confuse me with persons who ask questions when they have already decided what the answers must be.
Second, please do not confuse me with persons who manipulate facts to argue on the internet with people they have never met. Your assertion that I "tried to exclude similar attacks from Bush's record" is based on your belief system in how persons you do not know interact with the world. My question still stands – "Since President Bush began the "War on Terror" how many terrorist attacks have there been on Americans and on American property outside of Iraq and Afghanistan?"
1st - My question did not include attacks against our allies' citizens or property.
2nd – I do exclude "military actions" in Iraq and Afghanistan because our military is there in declared wars. Them that will war will find someone to war with.
3rd –Is it your statement that the terrorist attack on Bali 10/12/02 was specific to Americans and American property?
4th – Is it your statement that the March 11, 2004 Madrid train bombing was specific to Americans and American property?
5th – Is it your statement that the July 2005 London bombings were specific to Americans and American property?
6th – Richard Reid who attempted in December 2001 to down a Miami-bound airliner from Paris with a bomb hidden inside one of his shoes. This was an attempted terrorist attack on Americans and American property.
7th – In October 2002, an American aid worker was killed outside his Amman, Jordan home — blamed on Iraq's al-Qaida point man, the Jordanian-born Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. This was an attack on Americans and American property.
8th - The May 12, 2003 Riyadh Compound Bombings (26 dead). This was an attack on Americans and American property.
9th - The 29 May 2004 Al-Khobar massacres (19 foreigners – 1 American - and many Saudis). This was an attack on Americans and American property.
10th – The June 2004 attacks and kidnappings which resulted in the deaths of three Americans and an Irish reporter. This was an attack on Americans and American property.
11th - The December 2004 storming of the US consulate in Jeddah (5 consulate employees killed). This was an attack on Americans and American property.
12th – The August 19, 2005, attack on U.S. warships in the port of Aqaba, Jordan. This was an attack on Americans and American property.
13th - I don't think the domestic terrorist activities of the unsolved anthrax mailings and the DC sniper attacks belongs in this particular discussion.
My next question: Do you believe these terrorists activities would have happened if President Bush did not declare a "War on Terror"?
Edited by eloisel, 23 September 2005 - 03:27 PM.