Aurelius, on Oct 8 2005, 08:32 AM, said:
Nonny, on Oct 8 2005, 03:06 PM, said:
Aurelius, on Oct 8 2005, 04:48 AM, said:
Natolii, I disagree. This was, from the info given, a mistake. It wasn't a deliberate act to harm the child
Disagreement back at you. The fact that it was not a deliberate act to harm the child is meaningless in the context of the act itself. It was done to punish and humiliate the child. The fact that it harmed the child is due to the unfortunate attitude of some people that their right to pound others into round holes is more important than the right of others to live the best lives they can in spite of being square pegs.
To punish and humiliate him????? Where is the evidence of that. The teacher went to take what he thought was a mobile phone off the student. That's not punishment or humiliation.
He used force. That's punishment and it's humiliating, as it is meant to be.
Now, how he did it was completely wrong, I'm not disputing that. But I think, going from the evidence in the article, that he was trying to maintain classroom discipline; a feat that is increasingly hard to do.
Classroom discipline is especially hard for the inflexible, intolerant, hit/grab/bully first and sort it all out later types.
A mobile phone is an unacceptable disruption in a class.
And yet, there was no mobile phone!
The fact that the teacher was mistaken in both his analysis and handling of the situation is extremely regrettable. But I certainly don't think that this was a case of the teacher trying to force his opinion on others. And I don't see where you're getting that.
Um, lost you there. I don't believe I said that this is a case of a teacher trying to force his opinions on others, but a case of a teacher using force to take something away from a student without bothering to let the student explain what it was.
The once and future Nonny
"Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world." Can anyone tell me who I am quoting? I found this with no attribution.
Fatal miscarriages are forever.
Stupid is stupid, this I believe. And ignorance is the worst kind of stupid, since ignorance is a choice. Suzanne Brockmann
All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings. Diderot