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#1 Natolii

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 11:52 AM

No offense to anyone out there, but this is by far the most ignorant statement to  come out of the disaster thus far. Almost makes RFK Jr and Michael Brown look like Eistein...

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WASHINGTON -- Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said it's up to the government to prove that a levee wasn't bombed to flood poor black people out of New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Farrakhan said he's heard that military explosives may have been used to blow a hole in the levee, resulting in what he said would amount to "mass murder."

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:05 PM

Yeah. Right.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:44 PM

Farrakhan's a dolt.

I remember one of the only times a black co-worker really got ticked off about something was when I came into work with a copy of The Final Call that I'd bought off some Farrakhan supporter at a stop light.  The guy (who was trying his damnedest to look just like Louis) came up to my car and said, "Would you give a dollar to help stop violence in our community?" and I said sure, gave him a buck, and he tossed me a copy of the paper.  I wasn't sure what it was but figured I'd read it at work (it was a radio station so reading stuff at work was practically mandatory).  When my friend saw that, he said, "What are you doing with that?!?" and then went off on a tear about what an idiot Farrakhan is.  So, Louie shouldn't think he speaks for all black people, not by a long shot.

And the government fouled Katrina up big time, but thinking they wanted to kill people off by blowing up the levees is so ludicrous that it's beyond tinfoil hattism.  The only thing that's been sabotaged and blown up is Farrakhan's credibility, if he makes statements like that.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:50 PM

Farrakhan is living proof that bigotry, paranoia and ignorance knows no color. I doubt he even beleives what he's saying but it sure is a nice attention grabber for a man who clearly suffers from "Look at ME" syndrome.

The government screwed the pooch on Katrina, I won't even say that race didn't play a role in their slow response (because I don't know the answer to that one) but I don't believe for a second that they caused the levee breaches.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 02:19 PM

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....thinking they wanted to kill people off by blowing up the levees is so ludicrous that it's beyond tinfoil hattism.

Farrakhan is definitely in need of a tinfoil hat. I saw him interviewed on Fox, where the reporter asked him about a "vision" he reportedly had in the mid-80's in Mexico. Farrakhan happily told the story of climbing a mountain and then having a vision of being taken aboard a spacecraft, which zoomed up to the mother ship. There, he heard the voice of Elijah Muhammed warning him that Reagan was going to start a war. The vision was true, he said, because Reagan went after Qaddafy.  :blink:

Now here's the sad part: there are people who do listen to Farrakhan. And because some remarks by one idiot official to the effect that it's a great thing that nature cleaned out the 9th Ward have been widely spread, that kind of nuttiness primes some folks to believe Farrakhan's nuttiness. Also, there have been some fears in NO that because the 9th Ward is close to Downtown, the rebuilding might focus on high-income townhouses and such, housing that would effectively outprice the 9th Ward for its former residents. What truth there is to that, I don't know, but I know that I saw an interview with a NO City Councilwoman who expressed that concern. Those kinds of fears and concerns are already floating around, so naturally Farrakhan, hatemonger that he is, will add a perfectly loony conspiracy theory to the mix. But, again, because of those concerns, what Farrakhan says is more plausible to some people than we'd like to admit.  In fact, a couple of my students were discussing it after class today.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 02:24 PM

Reminds me of a time when a female told me I was sexist.  I replied that I was not.  She smirked and said "prove it."

What I said next didn't help my case.

This is the one statement Louie made that I totally agree with...

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 02:39 PM

This is the same man who built a religous empire based on the idea of massive spacecraft waiting behind the Moon to come down and kill all white people and start a new age and then attacked the makers of Independence Day when they had aliens in large flying saucers attack the Earth. The most unfortunate thing is that some people will take this ludricrus garbage seriously.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 02:50 PM

I gotta admit...it does have the makings of one seriously kick ass urban legend. The black militant crowd has a crapload of conspiracy yarns, and this has got to be the best one yet. If nothing else, some fertile imaginations are being cultivated there.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:51 PM

that's just sick.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:55 PM

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 04:28 PM

Itís not about the conspiracies itís about the anger. The conspiracies are not real but the anger is real and in many ways justified. AND Iíll stop here less I put my foot squarely in my mouth again.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 04:30 PM

No, sparky - you've spoken a truth.  Until there is real response to the anger, anyone can say anything that will feed the anger...

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 10:44 PM

Well, here we have another guy that makes me sick.

Louis Farrakhan.

Everytime this guy opens his mouth, it's trouble.

His bigotry knows no bounds.

He hates Jews. He hates Whites. And he hates women.

He's as racist and exclusionary as they come, and the sooner he's out of power the better for everyone.

He knows good and well that that didn't happen.

But, as usual, when this stuff is said, he'll always get a pass, and he'll preen for the cameras, because that's all he really wants.

I hope one day when he wants to speak, no one will listen.

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:07 PM

who's going to listen to that crap?  the levee broke because it wasn't built properly....duh!  there's widespread evidence to that.

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:19 PM

The bad thing of those levees is the things were bulit up with scrap and debrie and alsomost anything. The problem is that when they put in the concrete walls it was on a foundation of dirt and whenthe water spilled over the top it washed out that dirt and the wall fell because part of it's foundation was washed away.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:23 PM

One also has to remember that a barge ( no small thing ) broke free and pummled the levee at the spot that failed.  No bomb, just too much stress on a old, inadequately built structure that failed at the worst possible time.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:35 PM

To make the levees stronger would mean putting a barrier up to hold back the waters or put the new barrier inside the older one and the city grew up to the old barrier and the city should have taken up the ground but that would have cost votes.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 02:19 PM

He got this from reading the Bible and the Koran?  Wo!  The gubmint hates me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.    I especially like the part where he fails to provide proof, big surprise.  :suspect:  

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Posted 17 October 2005 - 10:49 PM

those levees were brittle enough that someone sneezing too hard woulda blown them over. Shoddy workmanshup... if he wanted to truly make a point about racism he could say the government didn't want to repair the levees because of the ethnic population in New Orleans.

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 12:02 AM

The thing is these levees needed replaced but the city and state misused federal fund for those upgrades. Or they did not use them and sent the money back. If these levees were like those in holland then they would be stable and made with stone and steel and set to handle these events.  


The truth is the feds should have stepped in decades ago made it happen. Or the State should have done when the feds gave them the money just for that purpose. They could have claimed even more land for use. Also The City should have as this is their front yard.
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