Um, you don't. Mudslide is an act of God. But in any case, you've proven my point. Why should a non-smoker have to pay more for what a smoker does? Remember, the smoker is only paying about 10% more for their insurance. Who is paying the rest of that money? That's right - the non-smoker!
Ummm...do my tax dollars go to The Feds and FEMA when these fairly obvious disasters occur? I'm thinking that's YES. Don't homeowners policies "pool" resourcea to cover flood areas for those who have flood insurance...Yes they do. Do I mind paying them? Not really places like LA are vital port regions. My main point being that we share the risks for each other. Whether by virtue of where we live or what risky behaviors we engage in. This notion of singling out this group or that to "nail" IMO is assinine and can be applied in a thousand different ways to the point of distroying the social order for ALL of us
"Smoking" doesn't go on the death certificate, if that's what you mean. There wouldn't be another death "chalked up" for smoking, other than estimates. You mentioned other problems that your father had. Did the doctor ask questions beyond smoking? Do you think that if the answer was "yes" that he would stop asking questions ofter that?
It was my mothers death that my doctor asked the "was she a smoker" question and NO, he didn't ask anything else about her health history past that single question. He actually seemed semi-disappointed that he couldn't attribute her death in part to smoking.
As I have said only too often on these boards, please back up your statement. Show me some proof. I'm from Missouri. Until then, it's only your opinion.
What is there to prove? If you die from heart disease and you're a smoker, your death will become part of the stats for "smoking related illness/death". It's not a secret. My point being that unless you do an autopsy on every smoker, the stats are based on the fact you smoke, not nessesarally on proof that the smoking was a contributing factor. My doc said my dad's death was in part attributed to smoking (just because he smoked) not because of an autopsy proving that point. If my mom had smoked, he'd have made the SAME unsupported claim based on that one factor.
Nope. You've heard of Medicare and Medicade, right? Guess who sucks money out of that system!
Well to borrow a phrase from you:
please back up your statement. Show me some proof. I'm from Missouri. Until then, it's only your opinion.
Already answered above, thank you.
Sorry but no you didn't.
(Data are for U.S. for year indicated)
Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart Disease: 696,947
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,816
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 106,742
Alzheimer's disease: 58,866
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 40,974
According to the CDC:
Heart disease and stroke—the principal components of cardiovascular disease—are the first and third leading causes of death for both men and women in the United States, accounting for nearly 40% of all deaths. Over 927,000 Americans die of cardiovascular disease each year, which amounts to 1 death every 34 seconds. Although these largely preventable conditions are more common among people aged 65 years or older, the number of sudden deaths from heart disease among people aged 15–34 has increased.
In addition, more than 70 million Americans (over one-fourth of the population) live with a cardiovascular disease. Coronary heart disease is a leading cause of premature, permanent disability in the U.S. workforce. Stroke alone accounts for disability among more than 1 million Americans. Over 6 million hospitalizations each year are due to cardiovascular disease.
The economic impact of cardiovascular disease on the U.S. health care system continues to grow as the population ages. The cost of heart disease and stroke in the United States is projected to be $394 billion in 2005, including health care expenditures and lost productivity from death and disability.
So tell me again why my observations on other illnesses aren't germaine?
Risk Factors Must Be Addressed
Two of the major independent risk factors for cardiovascular disease are high blood pressure and high blood cholesterol.
During 1999–2000, nearly 30% of U.S. adults had high blood pressure (hypertension), and another 31% had prehypertension. In addition, the estimated direct and Percentage of People with Normal Blood Pressure, indirect cost of high blood pressure is $59.7 billion in 2005. A 12–13 point reduction in blood pressure can reduce heart attacks by 21%, strokes by 37%, and all deaths from cardiovascular disease by 25%.
More than 80% of people with high blood cholesterol do not have it under control. A 10% decrease in total blood cholesterol levels may reduce the incidence of coronary heart disease by as much as 30%.
A key strategy for addressing these risk factors is to educate the public and health care practitioners about the importance of prevention. Current guidelines recommend that all adults have their blood pressure checked regularly and their blood cholesterol levels checked every 5 years. Systems changes are also needed to help practitioners adhere to guidelines for treating patients with or at risk for heart disease and stroke, such as prescribing beta-blockers and aspirin. Preventive actions can help people with any level of blood pressure or cholesterol reduce their risk.
Other important risk factors for heart disease and stroke—such as diabetes, tobacco use, physical inactivity, poor nutrition, and overweight and obesity—need to be addressed through lifestyle changes and appropriate use of medications.
Edited by Lin731, 01 November 2005 - 02:01 PM.