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Bush Job Approval 2005

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#1 waterpanther

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 10:23 PM

Go here:

Approval rates by state

to check out Bush's current approval ratings, broken down by state.  Currently, only 10 states give him greater positives than negatives.  Twenty-one states that went for Bush in 2004 now give him stronger negative than positive ratings.  If these percentages had electoral college votes attached to them--read 'em and weep, Karl.  Read 'em and weep.  :cry:

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 11:42 PM

Strange, isn't it?  What a difference a year makes.

Actually, I'm not surprised.  A lot of so-called "red states" are really "purple states."  In Nevada, for example, Bush beat Kerry by a measly 3 percentage points and has the potential to turn bluer with an influx of Californians.  Colorado went for Bush, BUT its state legislature is now controlled by Democrats AND it voted for a Democrat senator to replace a retiring Republican.  Even in Montana, where Bush's approval rating hovers around 50 percent, Democrats now control the governor's spot and the state legislature.  Meanwhile, in "blue" Maine, the state's GOP senators remain very popular.

There remain traditionally "red" states like Idaho and Utah, but other states can be considered "purple," not "red" or "blue."  Meanwhile, a conservative state like Iowa keeps re-electing liberal senator Tom Harkin.  In "blue" New York, we have ultra-conservative congressman Pete King.  

My point?  There are more swing states than you think.
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#3 Ogami

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 10:20 AM

Well the news media has already decided in favor of defeat in Iraq. Big surprise:

http://people-press....hp3?PageID=1016

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Yet the war in Iraq has had a profound impact on the way opinion leaders, as well as the public, view America's global role, looming international threats, and the Bush administration's stewardship of the nation's foreign policy. If anything, the opinion leaders are much gloomier about Iraq's future than is the public. Most opinion leaders feel that the U.S. will fail in establishing a stable democracy in Iraq; a majority of Americans (56%) believe success is still possible. Moreover, the opinion leaders express considerable doubt that Iraq will even survive as a unified country. About four-in-ten or more in every group say that the country will end up being divided into three countries, representing Iraq's Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds.


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Posted 24 December 2005 - 10:31 AM

Non sequitur.
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 11:09 AM

Yes, when the people who report the news to the people have already decided we've lost, how could that influence their reporting on Iraq, hmmmmmmmmm?

I guess the new definition of non sequitur is "inconvenient nuking".

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 03:27 PM

Blaming the news media for Bush's failures has long white hair by now and  is going bald on top. Its particularly inept when the source you cite says that 56% of Americans still believe success in Iraq is possible.  Make up your mind; you can't have it both ways.
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 04:33 PM

How unfair of me to quote a poll result. Boo hoo.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 04:39 PM

As you will.  But if you want to be fair to yourself in future, at least look for a poll that backs up your point.
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 07:35 PM

No one's forcing you to read it if you don't want to. I'm not your nanny.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 08:07 PM

And I'm not your teacher.  By all means, proceed as illogically as you please.  I would, however, prefer that the thread remain on the topic of Bush's job performance and not be derailed by irrelevant material.
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 08:19 PM

The original link didn't work, WP. I found one that does (I think):

http://www.surveyusa...1205ByState.htm
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 08:32 PM

Thanks, Specs.  I find it interesting that even Texas, Bush's "home" state, has begun to tilt against him.  I'm betting he'll begin to slide seriously once the DeLay case comes to trial and all the corruption gets laid out in front of God and everybody.
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 10:49 PM

waterpanther, on Dec 24 2005, 05:32 PM, said:

Thanks, Specs.  I find it interesting that even Texas, Bush's "home" state, has begun to tilt against him.  I'm betting he'll begin to slide seriously once the DeLay case comes to trial and all the corruption gets laid out in front of God and everybody.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 10:50 PM

Yes, WP, once the light of truth shines brightly upon the DeLay corruption engine, Oh I mean the Texans for a Republican Majority (Tom DeLay's personal PAC - also indicted), I expect to see a lot of Texas lawmakers scurrying for cover the likes of which one usually must bash down a roach house to see; Of course, if there is ONE thing DeLay knows, it's roach's. After all, being an exterminator WAS his ONLY qualification for public service....

Of course as time passes and more of the Congressional/ Senatorial corruption, graft, racketeering and lies lies lies yeah are brought to light, well, things are looking up for the non-insane, non-ravening non-neo-cons in America! Eventually we MIGHT even begin to have a REAL secular country that ISN'T threatened by religious fundamentalism, and doesn't pay obnoxious lip-service to the concept of secularization (notice they want Muslim countries to be secular but America should be "God's Country" - the appaling thing is they think it's ok, and they don't see the hypocrisy - quell suprise!).

I hope it does! but if the current group of evil-drooling baby-eaters , um I mean the Bush Cabinet! does manage to maintain control over all three branches of government (how did THAT happen without anyone noticing?!?There has been a Coup D'Etat in our own country and nobody noticed or cared!!!!!), there's always Canada, where the government gives things away, like HEALTHCARE!

The one really bright lite at the end of this tunnel is that no matter who the GOP decides to run in 2008 we know one thing; it won't be the worlds stupidest living human being - he's already been made president twice and can't be elected again! I don't say he's been elected twice, 'cause, well he wasn't elected. It was "arranged" by the vast right wing conspiracy that is now, running the country!

But I digress!



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Posted 25 December 2005 - 07:58 AM

Gefiltefishmon, on Dec 25 2005, 03:50 AM, said:

The one really bright lite at the end of this tunnel is that no matter who the GOP decides to run in 2008 we know one thing; it won't be the worlds stupidest living human being - he's already been made president twice and can't be elected again! I don't say he's been elected twice, 'cause, well he wasn't elected. It was "arranged" by the vast right wing conspiracy that is now, running the country!

But I digress!

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 02:42 PM

I can tell you as a person living in Texas that Bush's popularity around these parts has never been that high....but then even within a state there are differences in political beliefs.  

But folks who were only a year ago singing his praises...at least in relation to his opponent...are now singing a whole different tune.

No matter what anyone might say....being President means you catch all the flack for everything that goes wrong...all of the fallout from FEMA's mishandling of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, the high price of gas, unemployment--in short all of the problems that most everyone is living with right now.

So the more people feel like his decisions or those of people he appointed have hurt them financially or otherwise....the lower his approval ratings will go

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 03:07 PM

:hehe:

Will you people kindly keep it down in here?

I’m watching “Code Name The Kids Next Door.”

Sheeezzash “Bush,” ”Bush,” all you hear is “Bush,”
you’d think someone was hawking Hanukah bushes or something.

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 03:09 PM

Hey, I've changed my mind. If this thread makes a Merry Christmas to some, who am I to stand in the way of that happiness? Bush's numbers are down, woo hoo. Merry Christmas! Really.

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 03:25 PM

I wonder what the approval rating is gonna be for .......... his tell-all memoires? will he be the first to put one out which makes no more than 40000 copies? or will it make the bookstores the biggest margin-makers of all industies in the year it comes out?
I decided to do the library route for Hilary's and Bill's, so I prolly won't by "W's World" (or whatever name it winds up with) either .................. my own approval rating of his decisions and work has never crested the 15% mark
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Posted 25 December 2005 - 07:21 PM

trikay, on Dec 25 2005, 07:42 PM, said:

I can tell you as a person living in Texas that Bush's popularity around these parts has never been that high....

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I've been to Austin, the capital city, and that is a very liberal city.  They can't stand Bush.
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