But rights can be ignored. They are not concrete things, they are abstract concepts. Just because people die does not mean they do not have the right to live.
Lin, Broph, people do not have the right to demand to be fed they have the right to food. It's really far simpler than you people are making out. It's not 'the right to go into a grocery store and eat free of charge' it's NOT 'the right to get food FREE or get GIVEN food' or anything of the sort. it is the right to FOOD. And if you didn't have the right to food, you would not be here. We see human rights abused constantly. I can't think that a single second goes by without at least one person's rights being abused. But..and my goodness I can't believe I actually have to say this again:
The only thing which is prioritised ABOVE you getting your rights, is that you are NOT ALLOWED TO INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
You are not allowed to eat food at the expense of someone else making a living. You are not allowed to steal other people's stuff. What you are allowed to do...is EAT FOOD. That means that when you eat food, you are allowed to do that. Simple as. Lin, can they demand to be fed? I
can demand they be fed. Can a prisoner demand to be fed? YES. Because they have no privileges, not no rights.
Now I'm not going to spell out once more just how obviously the above applies to the ""right"" of smoking.
If a smoker can go into a place where smoking isn't allowed and say "I should be allowed to smoke here", a non-smoker should be able to say in a place where smoking is allowed "hey, I don't think smoking should be allowed in here". An open dialog.
And I see it all the time. They stand right next to the "no smoking" sign and they light up.
Me too. And let's face it. I've never seen anyone go into a smoking room and complain. We're talking hypothetical here, whether it happens on a frequent basis or not is irrelevant.
To be fair though Broph- if you go to hospitals, well, clearly in that case smokers should smoke a great deal to ensure the doctors and nurses stay in business, it's really only considerate. Their way of saying thank you. Perhaps you should just avoid train stations restaurants and hospitals- after all, smokers have rights Broph.
Reason I brought up UK law was that the whole 'let's closely analyse the US constitution' thing was making me nauseaus. I concede to the chances of becoming wildly off-topic.
Edited by SparkyCola, 07 March 2006 - 04:53 PM.