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[DWF]

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And don't forget bananas are good for you, lots of potassum.

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The Child's plague is spreading throughout wartime London, and its zombie army is on the march. The Doctor and Rose form an alliance with intergalactic con-man Captain Jack, but find themselves trapped in the abandoned hospital. The answer lies at the bombsite, but time is running out…

[Mooky]

DWF, on May 10 2006, 08:24 PM, said:

And don't forget bananas are good for you, lots of potassum.

Too bad they're not on the South Beach menu.  :pout:

[Mooky]

Lookin' forward to this one...again.

[DWF]

Nathrakh, on May 10 2006, 11:05 PM, said:

DWF, on May 10 2006, 08:24 PM, said:

And don't forget bananas are good for you, lots of potassum.

Too bad they're not on the South Beach menu.  :pout:

I don't think Captain Jack needs the South Beach diet though.  

[Mooky]

DWF, on May 10 2006, 10:16 PM, said:

I don't think Captain Jack needs the South Beach diet though.  

Lucky him.

[NeuralClone]

I love this episode.

[Mooky]

NeuralClone, on May 10 2006, 10:23 PM, said:

I love this episode.

Let's hope the Whobies feel the same.

[DWF]

The one shocker at the end isn't in retropect a shocker or it shouldn't be given the number of suspects.  

[Christopher]

I loved the Doctor's exultant shout: "Everybody lives!  Just this once -- everybody lives!"  That was an uplifting moment, considering how high the death toll usually is on this show.  And of course it had personal meaning for him given that he lost his whole species not so long ago.  A terrific moment for Eccleston and for the Doctor.  (Although the validity of the sentiment is questionable considering that there was a massive aerial bombardment going on at the time.)

Overall, quite an effective episode.  Nancy was a terrific character, very resourceful and smart, and ultimately the key to the whole story.  It'd be interesting to find out what happened to her and Jamie in the decades that followed.

My one problem with this one was that it kind of pulled the same scare tactic twice -- first it takes our gang a few moments to realize that the tape has run out and the "Mummy?" pleas come from the actual Child, and then it takes Nancy's bunch a few moments to realize that the kid isn't typing anymore and it's the Child sending them a message.  It was effective the first time (although the tape machine was anachronistic, as Wikipedia pointed out), but doing it twice in quick succession weakened it.

But the stuff leading up to it was great.  I never thought I'd see the Doctor telling a horde of menacing zombies to "Go to your room!" and have it work.  But it made sense.  (Plus the hilarious followup, "I'm really glad that worked.  Those would've been terrible last words!")  And then of course "his room" turns out to be the very place the Doctor et al. ended up!  Oopsie!

One thing I'm wondering: did the motivation for "Are you my mummy?" come from Jamie or the nanogenes?  Was it some residual impulse in the dead child's brain, the portion of it that the nanogenes were able to reactivate?  Maybe the last thought Jamie had before he died?  Or was it a manifestation of the nanogenes' search for an uncorrupted DNA sample?  Hmm, no, in that case, why would the nanogenes have transformed others to match Jamie?  And as the Doctor said, it took the genes a moment to "figure it out" when Nancy identified herself as "Mummy."  So that suggests they weren't specifically looking for her.  It's just kind of a lucky happenstance that the residual impulse driving zombie Jamie (for whatever reason) ended up pointing the nanogenes to the very thing they needed.

So only three episodes left this season, huh?  Or is it four?  The Beeb's website lists "The Christmas Invasion" as part of this season, but I don't know whether SciFi's going to show it.

Edited by Christopher, 12 May 2006 - 10:43 PM.

[Mooky]

DWF, on May 10 2006, 08:24 PM, said:

And don't forget bananas are good for you, lots of potassum.

Now I get it.  I forgot about that  line.

Edited by Nathrakh, 12 May 2006 - 09:31 PM.

[NeuralClone]

Christopher, on May 12 2006, 10:23 PM, said:

So only three episodes left this season, huh?  Or is it four?  The Beeb's website lists "The Christmas Invasion" as part of this season, but I don't know whether SciFi's going to show it.

The BBC is selling it as part of the season 2 DVDs so I think it's part of season 2.

[G1223]

Very wonderful episode. This is one of my favorites of the season.

[Captain Jack]

This one had me wondering what in the world is going to happen, and how is the Doctor going to solve this one?  This second part was an awesome ep!  Well, both part 1 and 2 were.  Anyway, what a great ending!  And EVERYBODY LIVES!!!   Very well written story, with some cool twists and revelations.

[DWF]

Rose looked great in this one and there were plenty of good shots in it they did a good job or recreating that era but then the BBC are excellent at historical dramas, the Bad Wolf reference was pretty obsure this time out I wonder who spotted it this time.

The fact that Nancy was Jamie's mother was alittle bit of a surprise but it shouldn't have been and I too loved the ending.

[Flechette]

Actually I missed the Bad Wolf reference in the last three - basically starting from "Father's Day"  

Could somebody perhaps post them?  Maybe under a spoiler cover or PM me them?


Thanks!



FWIW -  I absolutely adore this series.  Even the slightly uneven episodes (this isn't one) are head and shoulders above the rest.

[DWF]

Flechette, on May 13 2006, 10:00 AM, said:

Actually I missed the Bad Wolf reference in the last three - basically starting from "Father's Day"

There hasn't been a Bad Wolf reference since Dalek but in this ep. it was written in German on the bomb that Jack stopped at the end.

http://www.badwolf.org.uk/clues.html

[Christopher]

Flechette, on May 13 2006, 10:00 AM, said:

Actually I missed the Bad Wolf reference in the last three - basically starting from "Father's Day"  

Could somebody perhaps post them?

Here you go:

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Father's Day: A poster advertising a rave in 1987 has the words "BAD WOLF" defacing it.

The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances: The bomb that Captain Jack rides at the end of the story is labelled "SCHLECHTER WOLF", which is roughly "Bad Wolf" (or "Worse Wolf") in German.

http://en.wikipedia....s_in_Doctor_Who

[DWF]

Here's an interesting question, how many sexual/homosexual references can be spotted in this two parter, including the title?

And yes some of them are deliberate.

[NeuralClone]

^

My current guess: a hell of a lot of them.

[Smitty]

Including Nancy blackmailing Mr. Lloyd with her knowing he's "messing about" with the local butcher?

-cs™