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#1 Rov Judicata

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Posted 12 May 2003 - 11:35 PM

I've maintained that the US needs to more meaningfully guard its borders ever since 9/11. They're our most vulnerable point, and that's blatantly obvious to any who care to look.

Here's proof more clear than I could have even ASKED for on a silver platter:

http://www.theboston...665/detail.html

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NIAGARA FALLS, N.Y. -- Stepped-up security at the nation's borders didn't stop a 7-year-old Canadian boy from riding a bike through a border crossing undetected.

Police say Mitchel Hernder rode his bike more than eight miles from his home in Niagara Falls, Ontario to Niagara Falls, N.Y.,....

How was he found? UAVs? Border patrol? Law enforcement?

No:

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where he was found at a busy intersection.

Mitchel, who is described as mildly autistic, slipped away from his home Saturday afternoon and rode away on his sister's bike. A search for the boy was launched after his parents noticed that he was missing.



Authorities say he managed to get past U.S. Customs officials undetected. Police tell The Buffalo News that they suspect the boy made his way across a bridge on either a deck for vehicle traffic or an unused deck with abandoned train tracks.


Mitchel's father says family members searched their Canadian neighborhood for the boy, but never thought to look across the border.

That's right. Billions of dollars, nearly two years of effort, the most powerful military in the world... and our borders can be violated by a child.

If this wasn't so tremendously dangerous, I'd laugh.... and if it wasn't so hysterically inept, I'd cry.
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Posted 13 May 2003 - 12:27 AM

Hey, I'm just glad the kid's okay.  Did anyone see the episode of TV Nation a few years ago where Michael Moore (of all people) led groups of unemployed Canadians across the border into the US, to the utter indifference of the American guards?  It was basically a stunt to illustrate the double standards between the Mexican and Canadian borders, but still pretty funny.

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#3 Rov Judicata

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 12:29 AM

Oh, I'm glad the kid is okay too. :). No doubt about that; if any harm came to him, I would have focused on that, not the issue of border security.

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Did anyone see the episode of TV Nation a few years ago where Michael Moore (of all people) led groups of unemployed Canadians across the border into the US, to the utter indifference of the American guards? It was basically a stunt to illustrate the double standards between the Mexican and Canadian borders, but still pretty funny.

That is enertaining. And no, I missed it the first time.
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#4 Guest-AleisterCrowley-Guest

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 02:36 AM

That just about sums it up, doesn't it?

#5 Kosh

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 03:38 AM

I'm surprised they passed up the chance to shoot Moore.
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Posted 13 May 2003 - 05:13 AM

Well, it is possible the kid made it across unnoticed because he was a kid. :lol: No one is going to think much about a kid, and in a world where parents don't watch their kids out in public, is it surprising that others don't either?

However, with regards to border security, I'm afraid our long standing relationship with Canada is probably be coming to an end. There are obviously issues to having an open border for the US. And Canada is obviously not interested in dealing with those issues at their borders. That doesn't really leave us much choice.

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 05:24 AM

Yes, it's the invasion of the Canadian preteens, and their Huffies, they come here and spead their useless Canadian coinage, and buying cheap comic books. By all means they should stop all children at the border, and make certain o contraband coins are making their way into our pockets. :eek2:  :eek:  :eek2:  :nervousninja:

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#8 UoR11

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 05:33 AM

I'm not surprised. The Whirlpool Bridge has a decommisioned railroad bridge stacked with it, which is probably how he got in, because nobody's watching a bridge no one comes over.
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#9 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 06:41 PM

StarDust, on May 13 2003, 03:00 AM, said:

However, with regards to border security, I'm afraid our long standing relationship with Canada is probably be coming to an end. There are obviously issues to having an open border for the US. And Canada is obviously not interested in dealing with those issues at their borders. That doesn't really leave us much choice.
Agreed.
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Posted 13 May 2003 - 06:47 PM

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However, with regards to border security, I'm afraid our long standing relationship with Canada is probably be coming to an end. There are obviously issues to having an open border for the US. And Canada is obviously not interested in dealing with those issues at their borders. That doesn't really leave us much choice.

What issues would those be?

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 06:51 PM

ZipperInt, on May 13 2003, 04:34 PM, said:

What issues would those be?
Terrorism and Drug Smuggling are the two principle cross border arguments right now.
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#12 Kevin Street

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 06:57 PM

I thought it was wheat tariffs and softwood lumber. :p
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#13 ZipperInt

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 07:02 PM

Don't US guards inspect the traffic coming into the USA? If so, how does a (supposed) lack of Canadian interest in border security even matter?
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#14 CJ AEGIS

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 07:09 PM

ZipperInt, on May 13 2003, 04:49 PM, said:

Don't US guards inspect the traffic coming into the USA? If so, how does a (supposed) lack of Canadian interest in border security even matter?
The border is fairly loosely patrolled and enforced now to not impede the free flow of items between the US and Canada.   So in the current system smugglers and other undesirables (terrorists) that Canada has a great propensity toward freely playing host to can sneak into the US easier.
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