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#41 DWF

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Posted 03 June 2006 - 04:17 PM

View PostDelvo, on Jun 3 2006, 05:04 PM, said:

View PostChristopher, on Jun 2 2006, 10:31 PM, said:

But about the Daleks being the bad guys... I don't get it.  The Daleks are ruthless, malevolent, xenophobic, sadistic, monomaniacal, homicidal.  At times they've been devious and calculating.  But now Russell Davies seems to be asking us to believe they're capable of whimsy.  Why would they manipulate events to make the phrase "Bad Wolf," a reference to a fairy-tale character, follow the Doctor through history?  (Not to mention how.)  And why would they be behind this Byzantine thing with game shows?  Well, I'm willing to grant that that part wasn't their idea -- that they just allowed humanity to develop its own bad habits and managed to twist them into something worse.  Even so, the whole thing seems out of character for the Daleks.
Did you hear the comments along the way about the station's gadgetry being wired some unusual way that made it evident that it was doing a lot more than just broadcasting shows, and see the scene at the end when it was revealed that this was because it was actively (putting energy into) hiding the Dalek fleet, as if by "broadcasting" what Trek would have called a "cloaking field"?

All we really know the Daleks were getting out of this or cared about is the cover for their fleet. The rest of it could have causes outside of themselves or be just a part of how they accomplish that goal. (For example, the TV shows make a nifty cover story for their real use of the station, and they don't have to be the ones who decided what content the shows would consist of, or if they did then it might have been what they calculated what would keep the locals the most complacent.)

What do they need to hide the fleet for? If they've taken bad losses, they could have switched tactics like any good military force, deciding that they need to first rebuild in safety before they can re-engage.

Christopher is also thinking that the Daleks are behind the whole Bad Wolf thing. :whistle: Everything in the season comes to a head in the finale and the Dalek's behavior will be explained and it's something of a shocker. :cool:

Edited by DWF, 03 June 2006 - 05:24 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 01:18 AM

Daleks aren't behind the Bad Wolf stuff!

It's
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Hahahahaha! Yeah right I'm gonna tell you!
as a way to
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Hahahahaha! Fool you once shame on me fool you twice shame on you.
and all will be well.

Anyhoo, I am curious why all the simulations were based on shows from the late 20th/early 21st century. Did Adam's memories worm their way into Satellite 5's systems when he interfaced with the computer in Long Game?

Or is it just a big fat coincidence?

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 01:33 AM

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View PostChristopher, on Jun 3 2006, 09:15 AM, said:

Literally, a defabulator would be something that removes fables, or that makes something less fabled.  So I guess the main people who'd be threatened by such a device would be Aesop and the Brothers Grimm.

I mispelled it.  :blush:  A defabulator would be the ultimate weapon against the Thunderbirds.  :lol:
Or The Beatles or Duran Duran, the cast of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy drummer Fabrizio Moretti of The Strokes, rapper Fabolous & Jennifer Saunders and Joanna Lumley.

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Posted 06 June 2006 - 01:43 AM

All I know is that I abso frellin' lutely loved it.  And no it's not just because of my last name.  :halo:

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Posted 06 June 2006 - 12:44 PM

You mean you're...?

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Posted 06 June 2006 - 01:10 PM

De-Fabulous.  Which is like De-Lovely, only... well, you get the point.

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Posted 06 June 2006 - 08:46 PM

Awwwwwwwwwww.  :wub:  

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Posted 07 June 2006 - 06:05 PM

The ratings are in.

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Ratings for the twelfth episode of the first season of the new series, Bad Wolf, on US television on the Sci Fi Channel, have come in: the telecast dropped a bit to a 1.02 household rating with an average of 1.3 million viewers, down from the previous broadcast ("Boom Town") two weeks before and the smallest average audience to date for a Doctor Who original this season. The show was on a week-long hiatus, with viewers possibly tuning out after the lack of a broadcast the week before. Season-to-date, Sci Fi reports that Doctor Who is currently averaging a 1.27 household rating and an average audience of 1.5 million viewers for the season. The season finale airs this Friday, June 9.

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Posted 07 June 2006 - 06:09 PM

This was a pretty good episode. A bit cheesy at times but mostly effective. The next one is even better. ;)
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Posted 08 June 2006 - 12:48 PM

I love this episode -  then again I've loved all of them :love:


I've got some speculations about the finale that I'm putting spoilers around just in case I'm anywhere near the truth....


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OKay the phrase Bad Wolf has been echoing thru the entire show.  I think the TARDIS has something to do with it.  The Doctor said even he doesn't know what the Heart is capable of and is partially sentient.  It does have mental powers so it could possibly make people say or write it BAD WOLF.   As I see it  either the Doctor, Rose or TARDIS has to be responsible for the continual warning, they're the only ones there everytime - and of those 3 only TARDIS has the ability.  (hubby says I'm nuts)   OTOH I don't have anything to support HOW the TARDIS would know to do this... so... well  .....  I never said it was perfect logical speculation........:lol:

2nd option - for some reason another time traveler is warning/taunting them.  (hubby's opinion).  Simple, logical and the support being the phrase usage itself.

but - but -  darn it!  the Doctor's comment in  Boom Town just struck me as so pointed- TPTB made such a point of TARDIS's abilities right before the end of the season- surely there was a reason to do so? :alert:



and drats! :cry:  I would know who's right - if either of us are - til Sunday the earliest.....

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 02:13 PM

^ Ya'll are in fer a big surprise. :D

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Posted 08 June 2006 - 02:52 PM

View PostDrax, on Jun 8 2006, 03:13 PM, said:

^ Ya'll are in fer a big surprise. :D
That's for sure. :wideeyed:

Of course, it's one of those surprises that you'll probably either love or absolutely hate. ;)
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Posted 09 June 2006 - 07:10 PM

I had recorded it last Friday and I watched it again late last night.

During Rose's experience in Weakest Link the answer to one of the questions was Torchwood.

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Posted 09 June 2006 - 07:21 PM

View PostSmitty, on Jun 9 2006, 08:10 PM, said:

I had recorded it last Friday and I watched it again late last night.

During Rose's experience in Weakest Link the answer to one of the questions was Torchwood.

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Yes a Torchwood reference before Torchwood was even announced.  ;)
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 01:11 AM

"Officially" ;);) who wrote this ep? Russell Davies!

But I'm sure it's just a big cowinkydink. :)

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Posted 10 June 2006 - 09:33 AM

Ah, begone wid ye, whippersnappers standing 'round knowing what ye be talking about!

For the rest of us, standing here confused: I did a bit o' looking-up, and...

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"Torchwood" is to be a Dr. Who Spin-off, starring Captain Jack. The title is an anagram of "Doctor Who" and was used as a code name during this season's planning and production, to protect it from the eerie protoplasmic grasp of fans willing to beg, borrow or steal any hint of advance info or footage.

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Posted 11 June 2006 - 09:59 PM

Oh yeah old news to us wise Orpheus, but thanks anyway.

But a nice bit of news for the uninitiated.

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 11:35 AM

Well, perhaps I was the only one who thought (without realizing it) that Torchwood was a proposed Deadwood spin-off :)

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 11:45 AM

^^Did you also think that Deadwood was the sequel to Ed Wood? :D
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Posted 13 June 2006 - 07:50 PM

So  what about morning wood?

:( See what you made me do!

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