I know that I'm going to regret posting this and will want to delete it later... but it seems important at the time.
What about homosexuality when it appears in nature? Is it still wrong? What about those two male penguins who appeared to be partners and were raising a baby penguin together? (I'm not certain that they're still together, but they were.)
I just think that it's about time people stopped being persecuted on this board because of their first amendment right to voice a dissenting opinion.
Is there something about your faith that believes that people defending themselves against your stance *against them* is persecuting *you*? (Is that an overly complicated sentence? Yes. Apologies.)
However, you're expressing your belief in terms which are more polite than "Abomination!" Thanks.
I just want you to be aware that I've cut back on posting here because I feel that nothing I say is right, and that people make a blessed *point* of misunderstanding anything I say, so you're not the only one who feels like an outsider.
What are you thinking of as the meaning of the word "homosexuality": sexual attraction to others of the same sex, or action based on such an attraction?
I get the impression that daring to have the feelings at all is all the same to certain people, whether it's acted upon or not. I've had bi feelings that I've never dared to act upon, and so, feeling that everything about me is wrong according to someone, I gave up on relationships. Whatever. At least I'm not living in sin -- oh, but I am, because I haven't had children! Whatever, again.
But Christianity and Judaism have been known to set a different standard, by which even being tempted is already a sin even though you can't possibly control what you feel or think.
Yes, the Bible does say that thinking is the same as doing, which has driven me into guilty depressions my entire life, thank you. I've come to realize that I have no control over anything in the world except for my
self, and sometimes I can't even control *myself*, because my crazed, depressed mind thinks things that are apparently the same as doing them. That sent me into such a tailspin back in my 20s, I'm not sure how I survived. I've come to terms with it somewhat better now. Maybe...
And yet, even while saying that if children raise a hand against their parents, they should be punished, the Bible also speaks of family members turning against each other to follow Christ. Gotta love the contradiction.
it's possible to believe that something is a sin and leave it alone. Whenever I'm fighting with the more conservative aspects of my upbringing, I am of the opinion (and wish very much that more of my faith would share this opinion) that if it really is a sin, it's between, you know, them and God,
Okay, Anakam, there have been times when I've wanted to say "I love you!" and this is one of them -- but don't worry, it's purely platonic.
I've felt the same, because no matter how strongly I said as a teenager that homosexuality was bullbleep (before friends came out to me and caused me to rethink some things, etc.), I still felt that we're all God's children and should be treated with respect and decency. (Which I'm sure makes me a liberal leftist. Oh, give it a rest.) There's a little concept that only God is allowed to judge, and that if people judge, they'll be judged by the same measure -- so if people have no mercy, they'll be judged the same way. Therefore, yes, it's much better to keep these things between oneself and God.
If we were to truly avoid everyone who sinned, wouldn't we lead a very solitary life?
Considering the Bible says something to the effect that "We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God," yes, it's impossible to avoid everyone. (Although, actually, apart from work, I do my best to live like a hermit, so...)
Homosexuals are icky and we shouldn't act on our ickyness but y'all heterosexuals feel free to fall in love with whoever you want, no one is going to bother you or take anything from you. You can live where ever you want and your jobs are safe and god looooooves you! Yay for you!
*chuckle* There are times when I want to tell heteros who are pawing each other in public, "Are you certain that it's only gays who flaunt themselves?" Because I've seen a lot of that, including young women sitting in men's laps in public while they kiss and grope each other. Why is *that* acceptable? "Oh, *look* at how hetero we are!"
*edited for Quotes Gone Wrong*