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Massachusetts Cape Code Heterosexual Discrimination 2006

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#1 Mystery

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 08:35 PM

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PROVINCETOWN, Mass. Heterosexuals in this overwhelmingly gay resort town on the tip of Cape Cod are complaining that the oppressed have become the oppressors.

Straight people say they have been taunted as "breeders." One woman who signed a petition against gay marriage says she was berated as a bigot by a gay man, and another complained that dog feces were left next to her car.

"The gay community is not immune to having potential prejudices. We're all human, including gay people," said Tom Lang, director of knowthyneighbor.org, a nonprofit group that supports gay marriage.

Anyone here near this city can confirm?
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 08:51 PM

Well, what do they expect when they flaunt their heterosexuality in everybody's face and demand special rights?   :whistle:
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#3 Bobby

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 08:53 PM

Some people don't play the victim very well.

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:03 PM

View PostCaesar of the Stars, on Jul 26 2006, 08:53 PM, said:

Some people don't play the victim very well.

Could you explain, please.  I do not understand what you mean.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:18 PM

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Straight people say they have been taunted as "breeders." One woman who signed a petition against gay marriage says she was berated as a bigot by a gay man, and another complained that dog feces were left next to her car.


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charged that same-sex marriage supporters put dog feces next to her car, an accusation Meyer said would be impossible to prove. Another woman found a copy of the knowthyneighbor list on her windshield.

The friction has also drawn attention to allegations of racism toward seasonal workers from Jamaica and Eastern Europe. Provincetown is overwhelmingly white, with 2000 Census figures showing just 258 blacks, 74 Hispanics, 17 Asians and 11 American Indians.

At a town meeting, the Rev. Brenda Hayward, a black woman who lives in Provincetown, said tourists and residents alike have called her the "n-word."

The police chief, however, said there have not been any hate crimes in Provincetown since 1996. And Liu Jizhong, a cook at a Chinese restaurant, said discrimination is not a problem in Provincetown.

"Here, everyone's gay," Liu said. "They don't have a discriminatory mindset
Bolding mine.

Seems like they still have some racism going on there too.  If some gay people did do that they were wrong but even the cops told her it would be impossible to prove.   Maybe she has a persecution complex...

Edited by Caesar of the Stars, 27 July 2006 - 11:27 AM.


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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:26 PM

View Postwaterpanther, on Jul 26 2006, 09:51 PM, said:

Well, what do they expect when they flaunt their heterosexuality in everybody's face and demand special rights?   :whistle:

The winn-uh, and still champion, ladies & gentlemen!

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:27 PM

View PostScottEVill, on Jul 26 2006, 09:26 PM, said:

View Postwaterpanther, on Jul 26 2006, 09:51 PM, said:

Well, what do they expect when they flaunt their heterosexuality in everybody's face and demand special rights?   :whistle:

The winn-uh, and still champion, ladies & gentlemen!

Why is this?  Is harassment good?
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:31 PM

View PostMystery, on Jul 26 2006, 09:27 PM, said:

View PostScottEVill, on Jul 26 2006, 09:26 PM, said:

View Postwaterpanther, on Jul 26 2006, 09:51 PM, said:

Well, what do they expect when they flaunt their heterosexuality in everybody's face and demand special rights?   :whistle:

The winn-uh, and still champion, ladies & gentlemen!

Why is this?  Is harassment good?


No, it's not right.  But neither is discrimination using religion as a front for it.  As people who have been taunted and ridiculed they should have been above it, if they did do it.  Which they probably did.  I'm sorry but the dog feces lady is no Rosa Parks.

Edited by Caesar of the Stars, 26 July 2006 - 09:36 PM.


#9 Mystery

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:38 PM

View PostCaesar of the Stars, on Jul 26 2006, 09:31 PM, said:

View PostMystery, on Jul 26 2006, 09:27 PM, said:

View PostScottEVill, on Jul 26 2006, 09:26 PM, said:

View Postwaterpanther, on Jul 26 2006, 09:51 PM, said:

Well, what do they expect when they flaunt their heterosexuality in everybody's face and demand special rights?   :whistle:

The winn-uh, and still champion, ladies & gentlemen!

Why is this?  Is harassment good?


No, it's not right.  But neither is discrimination using religion as a front for it.  As people who have been taunted and ridiculed they should have been above it, if they did do it.  Which they probably did.  I'm sorry but the dog feces lady is no Rosa Parks.

Sorry, meant that to Scottevil, not you.  But you are right.  Discrimination toward anyone is not good.  But which direction outrages you more.  I am outraged both ways.
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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:42 PM

^I don't think it's right from either side.  It certainly won't help win support if they are going around putting dog feces beside peoples cars and harassing them at every turn.  At the same time, I can understand why they wanted to do it but it doesn't make it right.  They should be above that.

Edited by Caesar of the Stars, 27 July 2006 - 05:33 AM.


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Posted 26 July 2006 - 10:09 PM

Mystery, I think in looking at something like this it is also important to distinguish between discrimination--which is often an institutionalized matter---and simple spitefulness--which can be displayed by any individual, at any time, for a variety of reasons.

As for the term "breeder"---I've seen it used on this board, and AFAIK, the person using it was not a lesbian.  And IMO, it's just as insulting to lesbians who have children as it is to straight woman who have children. :Oo:

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 10:19 PM

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Some people don't play the victim very well.
and some are absolute masters of it. :p

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 10:14 AM

Mmmm.  That's just what I was thinking.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 10:32 AM

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Straight people say they have been taunted as "breeders."

Well... aren't we?  Everybody I know is the product of straight people breeding!  Or at least they were straight at the time.  There could be some test-tube babies in the batch that I'm not aware of, but, yup, for the most part, breeders are straights.  

Luckily, though, not all straights are breeders.  There's too damn many people around as it is.

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One woman who signed a petition against gay marriage says she was berated as a bigot by a gay man,

Did the shoe fit, though?  How'd the gay man know she'd signed the petition?  Was she bragging on it or something?  Doth milady protesteth too much, mayhap?

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and another complained that dog feces were left next to her car.

Okay, now this one really has me confuzzled.  The sh*t's next to her car, and she's assuming this means she's being oppressed?   If I find doggie do next to my car, I assume that a dog was wandering by and chose that place to take a dump.  Now, if I found dog crap on my car, I might assume differently.  Dog crap on your car means only three things:  (1) Somebody's being hateful to you.  (2) A circus dog was wandering by and had a call of nature (because circus dogs so a lot of jumping on things, y'see), or (3) Snoopy was up in his Sopwith Camel, dog-fighting the Red Baron, and got the crap scared out of him by the Red Baron's sudden Immelmen turn-and-strafe.  If you believe this happened, then you look from the crap on your car to the sky, shake your fist, and scream, "Curse you, Red Baron!"  Followed by a frozen pizza boycott.

And what kind of chickens**t prankster would put dog crap next to their victim's car?  That's like, "Man, I hate that guy... I'm gonna key the curb he's parked next to!  That'll teach him!"   Finding crap next to your car and assuming some mean ol' hater was trying to victimize you is hardly a logical or even sane reaction...

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 10:37 AM

As usual, Zwolf, you made your point with such flair and style.  Where's the what Zwolf said button? :D

Edited by Caesar of the Stars, 27 July 2006 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:16 AM

View PostZwolf, on Jul 27 2006, 11:32 AM, said:

Everybody I know is the product of straight people breeding!  Or at least they were straight at the time.

Um... not necessarily.  As far as I know, homosexuality doesn't make you infertile.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:22 AM

I saw on the news the other day that the first test tube baby is now 20 something, and pregnant.



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Why is this? Is harassment good?

I think Scot is refering to WP's well worded post, turning the tables, so to speak.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:29 AM

View Postscherzo, on Jul 26 2006, 10:19 PM, said:

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:35 AM

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Um... not necessarily. As far as I know, homosexuality doesn't make you infertile.

Of course not... they're fully capable of breeding.  But if the sex they're having is homosexual, it's not going to result in breeding.  To breed, they'll either have to do the test-tube thing, or have hetero relations...

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Trying to talk to you

I'd put you down where you belong
But I'm never talking to you again
I'd show you everywhere you're wrong
But I'm never talking to you again

I'm never talking to you again
I'm never talking to you
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Trying to talk to you

I'm never talking to you again
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:45 AM

Another question:
-- How many THOUSANDS of tourists go to P-town every DAY in the summer, whether for the cute town or the whale watching tours that go outta there...
-- How long did it take to find, what, 3-4 people to whine about it???

Is this really a story, or is this just a couple of people wanting their 15 minutes seconds of fame and ready to whine about ANYTHING if someone shoves a microphone or even a TV camera in their face??.

PS: I didn't mean anything by "couple."   :hehe:  

I've been there. It's beautiful (although a bear to get to). People seemed VERY nice. That's my experience.
I didn't even see anything so "out" that I'd have trouble explaining anything to my kids, who were with me and who are too young to need to know about sexual ANYTHING.



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