scherzo, on Jul 29 2006, 03:00 AM, said:
Which brings us back to the beginning, that gay/lesbien people are fully capable of being horrible people.
Now that it's been confirmed that for gays, being "horrible", can simply mean not lining up like obedient sheep and voting left, I'll bet "The Horribles" number in the hundreds of thousands.(might be a good time to buy stock in tar and feathers) Mary Cheney was probably fitted for her horns and forked tail, the second she considered ANYTHING besides her sexuality worthy of consideration. In her defense, the thought police might try to remember that Kerry was opposed to gay marriage too, before they break out the torches.
If Bush had ANYTHING else besides an anti gay platform to get elected but that was his biggest issue. And when it came time to try to get attention for her bookl she had NO problems saying she didn't like Bush using fear of gay marriage as a stepping stone to the White House.
Edited to add: http://www.msnbc.msn.../site/newsweek/
Gay marriage was a key part of Karl Rove's turnout strategy, and stood out as one of the cultural fault lines dividing the two Americas. Overwhelmingly, Americans say they oppose same-sex marriage, yet favor civil unions and other rights for gay couples. But the issue became a catchall for the concerns of Christian conservatives, who were already fed up with the many restrictions "activist" judges had imposed on them: rulings protecting abortion, banning school prayer and limiting religious displays in public buildings. The biggest concern: that judges in their states would follow the Massachusetts Supreme Court and force gay marriage on them. "It was a target," says Tony Perkins, president of the conservative Family Research Council. "It was a very clear focus of where to channel their frustration, their aggravation at what the courts have done."
The one question that looms over all of these state battles: what will Bush do? Appealing to evangelicals during the campaign, the president repeatedly said he'd push for a federal constitutional amendment outlawing same-sex marriages. But Bush has shown no real enthusiasm for the issue. Christian leaders had to lean on him to back it, and even then he was slow to embrace it.
Apparently Bush's heart wasn't in it either, just a means to an end.
Even the Log Cabin gays denounced them using the issue:
"This is really a declaration of war on gay and lesbian families,'' said Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans, the nation's largest gay Republican group. Guerriero called Bush's proposal a crude political gesture to appease the religious right, while others characterized it as a desperate strategy by a White House growing anxious about its re-election chances.
Guerriero said that a number of gay Republicans, including those who now serve in the Bush administration, will be doing a lot of "soul searching'' in the coming days. He held out the possibility that the Republican group that endorsed Bush in 2000 will refuse to do so in 2004, potentially costing the president upward of 1 million gay votes.
"The president's move this morning has woken up a giant,'' Guerriero said.
"While I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, for 200 years, this has been a state issue. I oppose this election-year effort to amend the Constitution in an area that each state can adequately address, and I will vote against such an amendment if it comes to the Senate floor,'' Kerry said.
Edwards also said that, while he opposes same-sex marriage, he also opposes the amendment.
"We have had our Constitution for more than 200 years. We amended it to abolish slavery and ensure women could vote. We should not amend it over politics,'' Edwards said.
The Log Cabin stresses its loyalty to the Republican Party. "We are loyal Republicans," its website says. "We believe in low taxes, limited government, strong defense, free markets, personal responsibility, and individual liberty. Log Cabin represents an important part of the American family — taxpaying, hard working people who proudly believe in this nation's greatness."
But Log Cabin dissents from conservative Republican views on matters relating to gay and lesbian rights. "We also believe all Americans have the right to liberty, freedom, and equality," it says. "Log Cabin stands up against those who preach hatred and intolerance. We stand up for the idea that all Americans deserve to be treated equal-regardless of their sexual orientation."
"The radical right has drawn Republican leaders into a culture war as the 2004 election approaches. With polls against them, the radical right has responded with more desperate rhetoric. They're using fears about gay civil marriage in their effort to engineer a public backlash. Scare tactics have failed in the past. They will fail again. That's because most Americans understand the meaning of freedom. It is not reserved for the select few. We all have the right to freedom and personal liberty."
Similarly many social conservatives and Christian evangelicals in the Republican Party refuse to recognize Log Cabin as part of the party, and many Republican office-holders refuse to meet with them or respond to their initiatives. In March 2004, for example, Kansas senator Sam Brownback said that Log Cabin's activities in support of same-sex marriage were "hurting the party they claim to support." He commended Bush for what he called "his bold and principled stand in support of a constitutional amendment protecting marriage."
I wonder why they wouldn't recognize or meet with them. Couldn't be because they are homosexuals...
Edited by Life for Rent, 29 July 2006 - 07:37 AM.