Gefiltefishmon, on Oct 16 2006, 05:44 PM, said:
Well you still have to take into account personal orientation. The majority of pedophiles who molest boys are not interested in men or even teenaged boys - and in fact most identify themselves as Heterosexual and many have families - Molestation and pedophilia is USUALLY not about sex (Neither - for that matter - is Rape, but, there are exceptions), its about power and control. That doesn't care about orinentation it only cares about someone vulnerable and easy to hurt - while forcing them to 'trust' and do other things - spend time talking to foster kids and it'll give you the heebie jeebies!
If it isn't about sex why is sex a part of it? There are lots of ways to exert power over people, and children are pretty powerless.
SparkyCola, on Oct 16 2006, 08:41 PM, said:
It depends, I suppose, on your definition of 'sexually charged'. I think it's very significant that men are "stirred" very rapidly. It takes more than a bit of flirting or something erotic to turn on a woman, for a man it's easier. It's the same principle as the rape of adults. Men rape more women than women rape men.
I understand you better now.
I think I understood 'sexually charged" differently. I don't know if men are more easily or rapidly aroused than women - I do know that women's sex drive is just as strong or stronger in some cases as men, and I can almost predict that there are timing issues that make that more true at some ages and less true at others.
Do you have any evidence I can take a look at, or is it just your feeling on it?
I don't - but this isn't just my feeling on the matter... as I mentioned, there are articles we can find in the news of women carrying on like this and still getting a chance to do it again and again and again... the same factors that make women "not supposed to do this" are the ones that make people believe that it hasn't happened. Plus, there are a lot of factors that go into women getting off more often than men with a crime like this. One is boys being made to feel like its unmanly to reject comeons from women - even inappropriate ones (how many times do we hear how cool its supposed to be for older women to come on to boys?)
Here's an upsetting website - I haven't investigated it much to find out why all the criminals on the site are female - but anyway - they seem to be determined to ferret out those kinds of stories - and there are a bunch of them here:
This story from the NY Times is listed amongst those, and is the one that has my ire right now:
A History of Sex With Students, Unchallenged
Mary DiBiase Blaich for The New York Times
Diane Cherchio West had sexual relationships with two teenage boys who were students at Bayonne High School, where she was a guidance counselor. She retired in 2002 after she was charged with statutory rape.
By DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI
Published: October 10, 2006
BAYONNE, N.J. — Many in this gray, insular city are at a loss to explain why Diane Cherchio West was allowed to continue working in the public school system for two decades after she was caught in 1980 kissing and groping a 13-year-old student at an eighth-grade dance.
Why, after her promotion to guidance counselor at Bayonne High School, no one alerted social services, school officials or the police when she became pregnant by an 11th grader she supervised, Steven West, and married him upon his graduation in 1985.
Or why, when that baby, Steven Jr., grew to be a teenager, no one balked as his 15-year-old friend moved in with Ms. West, who then seduced the friend with Scooby-Doo boxer shorts and evening jaunts to sports bars and used her school authority to rearrange his classes around their secret trysts.
It was not until 2001, when relatives of the boy, Christopher Castlegrande, filed a complaint with the police of statutory rape against Ms. West, that she left her $74,000-a-year job and lost her unfettered access to Bayonne High School’s students.
The italicized part is a small print caption from the article - and it talks about this woman RETIRING, instead of being outright fired.