enTranced, on Oct 17 2006, 07:30 AM, said:
Cait, on Oct 17 2006, 05:09 AM, said:
If it isn't about sex why is sex a part of it? There are lots of ways to exert power over people, and children are pretty powerless.
No it *is* about sex. It is usually about a "power" fetish. Those that need to feel powerful in order to become sexually aroused.
It's complicated, as most fetishes are, but it is definitely about sex.
But they need the violence and the power to get to the sex. THAT is the twisted and downright nasty part.
Well, yeah, that is part and parcel of a fetish. A rapist can have any number of fetishes. Seeing blood on the victim, or a black eye, or the marks on a woman's throat.. any number of things can be the trigger for sexual arousal.
Power isn't a fetish in the strict sense, but it certainly can fall under the umbrella of psychological states that are needed to induce arousal.
It's the same process for a Peeping Tom who needs to be peeping to get aroused. Or an exhibitionist who needs to expose him/herself to become aroused. A man who can't become aroused with his wife, and needs a prostitute. This list is endless.
Sexual deviancy can range from keeping your socks on during sex up to and including needing to kill your partner. It's sick and twisted, but that is the nature of deviancy.
Pedophiles [I believe] are aroused by children for more than gender. I think that's why there is so much cross over with offenders. I think it has to do with the age of the victim not the gender at all. That's probably why we get numbers like this and we don't make any accurate assumptions regarding what the numbers mean. We're hung up in gender and orientation, while we leave aside the real common denominator in offenders--age of the victim. The answer is in the age, not the gender of the victim.
Rape is another one of those things that our culture gets caught up in. The old saying that it is not about sex and all. It is about sex because sex is being forced. It has to be about sex. Violent sex to be sure, but it is sex.
Non-consent fantasies are among the most prevalent in our culture. The ability of a man to simply 'take' what he wants without consideration of consequence for another human being is potent stuff. Ask any Porn viewer.
Sex is one of the most complex things we do when it comes to the psychology of it. What triggers arousal in people is still a mystery to me and I've made a sort of study of the phenomena. Rape is about sex and the power to take what is wanted. There can be other fetishes associated with the non-consent, blood, bruises, screams, pleading, begging, humiliation of the victim, etc.. but it is all about sex and what turns the rapist on.
One of the mistakes we've made as a society is to deny this. We deny it is about sex and so no one has studied the mechanism of arousal and what triggers it. What makes some things more arousing than others? Why do some men like big breasts and blondes, while others like Asian women. It's a preference, but how are these preferences developed? It's what triggers arousal, but no one wants to dissect this and get to there heart of the matter. Some of it is benign to the object of arousal, but some of it is deadly.
But make no mistake, it is all about sex.