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#1 WildChildCait

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 07:53 PM

He may be happy with the way Cheney and Rummie are running things, but the Brits voted him only slightly less dangerous than Bin laden, and rated his work as making the world unsafer, not safer.


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Posted 03 November 2006 - 10:24 PM

View PostChaddee, on Nov 3 2006, 06:53 PM, said:

He may be happy with the way Cheney and Rummie are running things, but the Brits voted him only slightly less dangerous than Bin laden, and rated his work as making the world unsafer, not safer.


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Posted 03 November 2006 - 11:00 PM

What can you expect Mark? Some Brits wanted to appease the Russians during the cold war by jumping on Regan.  They had polls like this because to them it was better to appease than stand strong. There were brits who supported Hitler because they were so afraid of the Communist he was the better choice.

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 11:07 PM

Personally, I'd rate him more dangerous than any of them.  :devil: He scares the bejeesus out of me. I only hope we survive the rest of his presidency without going to war with Iran or N. Korea.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 12:16 AM

Yes  then we can have a wise and kind Democrat will come into office and suddenly the left will rally to the cause and we will see two marines walking the blasted ground with a bucket of paint to painted the lines in the parking lot.

Then after the shooting we will hear how the new and great leader needs more power and since he is a democrat he is above being questioned. At least the media will not question him. They have proven in the past to be either the ally or bleeting sheep.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 01:32 AM

I dunno, is being an idiot President worse than being an insane, hateful leader?  Bush is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, and he had made lots of huge mistakes, but I don't quite  put him in a worse catagory than Kim and Osama.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 10:18 AM

^Got a point.  At least this country isn't like Talibani Afghanistan.  Has anyone seen public executions of women for infidelity?  Last I checked, Lambeau Field isn't used for such things.  Osama was in favor of such things and was deep in bed with Mullah Omar, the "glorious leader" of the Taliban.  

While what Bush does may seem to destablize the world, Kim Jong Il is succeeding beyond his wildest dreams at keeping the world destabilized with the constant worry of a NK Nuke.

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:51 AM

Wow. Rationality goes out the window.  :sarcasm:
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 12:34 PM

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:41 PM

Interesting, becuase perception really is everything.

And the fact is, this country's opinion of Bush does not appear flattering.

Call it what you will - fact is he had a lot of good will and squandered it with his international policy.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:53 PM

It is worth noting that the source is The Guardian, which as a newspaper traditionally has a fairly left-wing editorial slant.  That having been said, it isn't bad for balance (I'd read it), and certainly has been more concerned with how to solve the problems in Iraq rather than pointing fingers at how they came to be.

Of course, a poll is about public perception, not editorial position.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:29 PM

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:57 PM

Don't know if you have to make a list of which is worse, when they're all as bad as each other. Well, mostly. And in different ways.

But I can't see Bush trying to make the world a better place so...
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 11:23 AM

View PostChaddee, on Nov 4 2006, 04:41 PM, said:

Interesting, becuase perception really is everything.

And the fact is, this country's opinion of Bush does not appear flattering.

Call it what you will - fact is he had a lot of good will and squandered it with his international policy.


Ain't gonna argue he blew his goodwill currency with a lot of folk, but comparing him to scum like Kim Jong Il and UBL is pointless.  May as well bring Godwin in on this one at this rate.

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 01:09 PM

View PostDrew, on Nov 4 2006, 11:51 AM, said:

Wow. Rationality goes out the window.  :sarcasm:
Oh that went away several years ago...  Any pretense of it is what flew out the door today. ;)
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 02:11 PM

View PostLost Cause, on Nov 4 2006, 07:18 AM, said:

^Got a point.  At least this country isn't like Talibani Afghanistan.  Has anyone seen public executions of women for infidelity?

Perhaps, but I'm not sure we owe Bush any kudoes for that. We owe the Founding Fathers and the structure of our government for that - it certainly has nothing to do with Dubya. That, and the fact that this isn't a fundamentalist Muslim country. ;)

Bush had more responsibility than any other leader because our country is the biggest, richest, most powerful nation on earth. And he's done nothing but blow it since day 1. How does that not make him dangerous? My only consolation is that even his biggest former supporters are not likely to help him take away any more of our rights or get us into yet another war.

And I resent the implication that anyone who thinks Bush is dangerous is irrational. I tend to think the rest of you have been asleep for six years.

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 02:29 PM

View PostLost Cause, on Nov 4 2006, 03:18 PM, said:

^Got a point.  At least this country isn't like Talibani Afghanistan.  Has anyone seen public executions of women for infidelity?

Abortion clinic bombing? (and no, that's not intended as a serious response)

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 03:05 PM

View PostRhea, on Nov 5 2006, 11:11 AM, said:

And I resent the implication that anyone who thinks Bush is dangerous is irrational. I tend to think the rest of you have been asleep for six years.

Amen sister!  

I have no idea where patriotism in the US ever began being equated with blind acceptance of "government policy" .  They represent us for crying out loud.  When they don't represent us well, we have a *right* and a duty to speak up.

Freedom of Speech is one of those "use it or lost it" amendments.  Anyone who thinks that silence and irrational acceptance of bad policy is necessary to being a patriot is insane IMHO.

It's our job to remain critical of government.  It's our job to speak out and demand answers from those who represent us and "act" in our name.  It's our job to be vigilant and unrelenting in demanding that government be held accountable to us *the people*.

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 03:06 PM

View PostGodeskian, on Nov 5 2006, 02:29 PM, said:

View PostLost Cause, on Nov 4 2006, 03:18 PM, said:

^Got a point.  At least this country isn't like Talibani Afghanistan.  Has anyone seen public executions of women for infidelity?

Abortion clinic bombing? (and no, that's not intended as a serious response)

And in Afganistan during the taliban days such an act would not have been crime. Here you get hunted down and put on trial and depending on the state you get put to death for your crime.
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 03:11 PM

View PostRhea, on Nov 5 2006, 02:11 PM, said:

And I resent the implication that anyone who thinks Bush is dangerous is irrational. I tend to think the rest of you have been asleep for six years.

Sorry where are the secret police to take you away for such statements? Where is the cybercops to shut this site down?  You keep shouting that your freedoms are being taken and still they let you cry out loud about it? If Bush is the EVIL you keep labeling him why does he let you make this noise?

If Congress is his puppet why are they allowing it?

For six years you have ranted and raved about Bush this and Bush that and still you seem to have not lost the right to do so. But still you demand that we take you seriously.

We have not been asleep for six years we have simply gotten tired of rant and have you on ignore.
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