^True DM, I'll always be anti-DP, fair trial or not, even in the case of Saddam Hussein.
Call me biased.... but I think anyone who doesn't believe Saddam should be executed should have to listen to the stories of a few hundred of his victims families.... And then stand there and explain why Saddam shouldn't be killed.
It'd be a interesting learning experience on how the real world operates. And that the world really isn't warm, cuddly, or nice. That some people do forfeit their right to life.
I'm honestly not sure this dignifies a response. Thankfully Godeskian did it for me.
For the most part I agree with what Gode, Scott and Lil said. And DM when he says we should all just agree to disagree, considering how many times we've been over this. But DM and G and others aren't making it personal, CJ, and you are.
I think it shows a certain naivetivity regarding just how nasty some people are and how they are too dangerous to keep around. As for bordering on arrogant its no more arrogant than someone who has never suffered under Saddam thinking that they can tell the Iraqis that they are doing the wrong thing with Saddam after they give him a fair trial in he eyes of most experts. The experts who are complaining about this trial are either the internationalist whackjobs like Ramsey Clark who would support any tinpot dictator as long as they stand against the US or they are rabidly anti-death penalty and would find something wrong with the trial no matter what. I think one of the more telling things for me was listening to an exiled Iraqi who works for Amnesty International as anti-death penalty advocate. She had to fess up the interviewer and admit she supported the sentence for Saddam after seeing the personal impact he had on people around her. Hopefully most anti-death penalty people can go through life without having that touch of the harsher world take someone from them in the form of violent crime or the act of a mad man. That said I'd still like to see anti-death penalty people have to explain their stance to the families of Saddam victims in person and actually put their money where there mouth is.
Funny, I think it's naive (as well as offensive) to presume I have put forward such a strong point opinion without having thoroughly thought it through beforehand. What's more interesting is that you tell me I'm arrogant for putting forward an opinion because I'm not Iraqi. And here I was all this time assuming you were American, CJ, you never told us YOU were suffering under Saddam's regime. Or do you just mean that people (who are not Iraqi) who don't agree with you, can't put forward a view whilst still being intelligent or thoughtful human beings? And you call me arrogant?
No one is even implying Saddam is innocent, don't try to throw that in there as though it's relevant.
My opinion that the death penalty is wrong on many levels does not depend on judging the level of the crime. Therefore, it doesn't matter about the person in question. I've covered this ground about 50 zillion times on the OT so I'm pretty sure most people here at least KNOW my view even if they don't understand it or agree with it. I think you're not exactly a newbie here either CJ so I guess you just weren't paying attention before. Well go back and read cos I ain't typing it again.
Besides, Scott already did it very well.