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#1 Rov Judicata

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 03:49 PM

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“Any trend to produce programs and products -- including animated films and video games -- which in the name of entertainment exalt violence and portray anti-social behavior or the trivialization of human sexuality is a perversion,” he said. He said this was “all the more repulsive” when programs were directed at children and adolescents.

I agree with the pope that children are being traumatized by evil video games. I would ask him to join in with me in making it easier to buy and sell used video games. That way, if a video game is inappropriately sexual around a child, it can easily be sold to a child in another parish.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:16 PM

I dunno... I'm kinda holding out for Grand Theft Auto: Vatican City, so I can jack that pontiff for his Pope Mobile, rename myself "John Paul XXX," and go on a rampage of destruction and debauchery!

I'm also waiting for a Passion of the Christ game to come out for the Nintendo Wii...

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:23 PM

*reads Rov's post*

Can somebody send the Pope his Tomb Raider hint book? Somebody is getting craaaankyyyyy....  :ninja:

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:28 PM

View PostZwolf, on Jan 24 2007, 04:16 PM, said:

I dunno... I'm kinda holding out for Grand Theft Auto: Vatican City, so I can jack that pontiff for his Pope Mobile, rename myself "John Paul XXX," and go on a rampage of destruction and debauchery!

I would SO buy that game.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:47 PM

I've made my anti vatican feeling very well known, so I'll only say "What Rov Said".
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 05:39 PM

I protest this depiction of videogames. we all know that it's tabletop RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons that are the repulsive perversions. We don't spend all our time summoning demons and sacrificing virgins to be overshadowed by pixels thank you very much.

I'm going to file a complaint just as soon as I figure out who to complain to.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 05:42 PM

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Can somebody send the Pope his Tomb Raider hint book? Somebody is getting craaaankyyyyy....

:lol: Yep!

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 05:46 PM

I agree with the Pope. No sarcasm intended.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 06:22 PM

View PostSparkyCola, on Jan 24 2007, 10:42 PM, said:

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Can somebody send the Pope his Tomb Raider hint book? Somebody is getting craaaankyyyyy....

:lol: Yep!

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Poor guy, all he wants is the "nude raider" patch.  :blush:

QT : There was sex and violence long before videogames were invented and Gode brings up a good point, back before videogames got high tech enough the Pope was telling me I was going to hell because I liked to roll dice of unusal shapes and liked beating up on goblens.

Before then I was going to hell because I liked that demon rock music and read Batman comics.

Before that I was going to hell because I read Robert Heinlein.

Today I guess I'm going to hell because I STILL listen to that demon rock music (I try to stop but Trent Reznor keeps putting out new music :cry:) and i'm registered in the Democratic Party and think everybody should be given a fair shake no matter who they sleep with. :blush:

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 06:33 PM

Hm.

I condemn the Catholic Church protecting pedophile priests all these years. Who ELSE are they protecting?  :sarcasm:

I wasn't going to post, but this topic pissed me off.  :glare:

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DO. YOUR. JOB. DON'T BUY VIOLENT GAMES FOR YOUR KID, NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE SCREAMS THAT BILLY NEXT DOOR HAS ONE.


Ugh. I think the Pope's got that pointy hat on too tight. :p

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Edited by Digital Man, 24 January 2007 - 06:34 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 06:41 PM

Hah-I HAVE to add this thought. I just LUUUUUUUUUVE the irony...

The Catholic Church was hiding pedophile priests for who knows HOW long (and there are probably are other pedo-priests we don't know about still around kids), and the Pope suddenly is CONCERNED about the welfare of children. :barf:

Excuse me while I puke. The hypocricy just makes me ill.  :crazy:

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 06:46 PM

^ Uh...I don't agree with him on this issue about vid games, but I think he is genuinely concerned about the welfare of children, and honestly - the sordid history of part of the Catholic church does not change the fact that he is here in the PRESENT and can always work to set things right- and NOT allow things to go on like they were before. If that makes sense.

Mocking someone for making a genuine effort to change the bad things - that is more hypocritical than him trying to do what he believes in. imo.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 06:50 PM

View PostSparkyCola, on Jan 24 2007, 06:46 PM, said:

^ Uh...I don't agree with him on this issue about vid games, but I think he is genuinely concerned about the welfare of children, and honestly - the sordid history of part of the Catholic church does not change the fact that he is here in the PRESENT and can always work to set things right- and NOT allow things to go on like they were before. If that makes sense.

Mocking someone for making a genuine effort to change the bad things - that is more hypocritical than him trying to do what he believes in. imo.

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I'm standing my ground on this one-even if it means I'm the only one in the corner. Unlike the Catholic Church-I'm not trying to hide pedophile priests.

So-you and I will just have to agree to disagree Sparky. That's how strongly I feel about this. And I speak as someone who used to be a practicing Catholic. I may also be sensitive to this issue having been physically abused by a teacher in a Catholic school when I was a child.

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Edited by Digital Man, 24 January 2007 - 06:51 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

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QT : There was sex and violence long before videogames were invented and Gode brings up a good point, back before videogames got high tech enough the Pope was telling me I was going to hell because I liked to roll dice of unusal shapes and liked beating up on goblens.
I don't remember the Catholic Church ever commenting on D&D, admittedly it was a little before my time when thier was that flap, but I don't remember Catholics at any official level getting in on it.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 12:40 AM

View PostGodeskian, on Jan 24 2007, 05:39 PM, said:

I protest this depiction of videogames. we all know that it's tabletop RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons that are the repulsive perversions. We don't spend all our time summoning demons and sacrificing virgins to be overshadowed by pixels thank you very much.

I'm going to file a complaint just as soon as I figure out who to complain to.

Hey! I do that all the time, and I haven't even played more than fifteen minutes of a tabletop D&D game.

View PostQueenTiye, on Jan 24 2007, 05:46 PM, said:

I agree with the Pope. No sarcasm intended.

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I wholeheartedly disagree with you. There is no sarcasm intended on my part, either.

View PostDigital Man, on Jan 24 2007, 06:33 PM, said:

Hm.

I condemn the Catholic Church protecting pedophile priests all these years. Who ELSE are they protecting?  :sarcasm:

I wasn't going to post, but this topic pissed me off.  :glare:

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DO. YOUR. JOB. DON'T BUY VIOLENT GAMES FOR YOUR KID, NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE SCREAMS THAT BILLY NEXT DOOR HAS ONE.


Ugh. I think the Pope's got that pointy hat on too tight. :p

:rolleyes:

I wholeheartedly agree with your notation of bad parenting.



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View PostQueenTiye, on Jan 24 2007, 05:46 PM, said:

I agree with the Pope. No sarcasm intended.

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That makes two of us.  We demand that parents try to raise their families to be less violent. Please explain why a ten year old needs a game where the goal is to make the most money by killing police officers and or shaking down hookers.

You want to try explain why it is wrong for the Pope to point out that the crap we are filling our kids heads with or worse allow those kids pick these games out for themselves?

I am a RPGer. I have played adult themed campaigns.  I would not ever play that sort of game with a kid under 15. Yet I see these kids wanting to play Gear of War or GTA. If you cannot see where the Pope has said something of merit in this case. Please stop crying about the kid who has learned that killing your rival is the way to deal with others. And if that cop gets too close it is OK to kill him.

That seems to be what you are wanting here.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 12:57 AM

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Please explain why a ten year old needs a game where the goal is to make the most money by killing police officers and or shaking down hookers.

They don't. Those games are also marketed to adults (with a very clear "MATURE" label on their boxes). If a child has access to them, that's the fault of the parents.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 01:07 AM

View PostG1223, on Jan 25 2007, 12:49 AM, said:

View PostQueenTiye, on Jan 24 2007, 05:46 PM, said:

I agree with the Pope. No sarcasm intended.

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That makes two of us.  We demand that parents try to raise their families to be less violent. Please explain why a ten year old needs a game where the goal is to make the most money by killing police officers and or shaking down hookers.

You want to try explain why it is wrong for the Pope to point out that the crap we are filling our kids heads with or worse allow those kids pick these games out for themselves?

I am a RPGer. I have played adult themed campaigns.  I would not ever play that sort of game with a kid under 15. Yet I see these kids wanting to play Gear of War or GTA. If you cannot see where the Pope has said something of merit in this case. Please stop crying about the kid who has learned that killing your rival is the way to deal with others. And if that cop gets too close it is OK to kill him.

That seems to be what you are wanting here.

No, what I personally want to hear is parents actually taking responsibility (for once).

Seriously parents, if you don't want you child playing a "MATURE" (M.A.T.U.R.E. What does it spell? Yoooouuuu got it! Mature content!) video game, then don't buy the child the g*dd*mn game. It just shows how idiotic people can be, as they pit the blame upon others rather than even take even an ounce of it themselves.

I'm tired of this topic. . . it's gone on for far too many years.

Regardless, I disagree with you from the very depths of my soul. I disagree with you so much, that I'm not even attempting to make myself look intelligent in my response to you. Now that is some hardcore disagreement.

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Please explain why a ten year old needs a game where the goal is to make the most money by killing police officers and or shaking down hookers.

They don't. Those games are also marketed to adults (with a very clear "MATURE" label on their boxes). If a child has access to them, that's the fault of the parents.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 01:53 AM

It's nice that the pointy hatted one is speaking out against human nature, but that has often been their way.
As for human sexuality as a perversion it would appear to me that the RCC is the institution that invented and promoted it.

Why can't he just be quiet like the pope in charge during WW2?
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 02:59 AM

Ah yeah those GTA ads that played on TV during the late afternoon. And on the WB. Shiney those are for adults guess the kids watching are suppose to know that fact. Got to love marketing.
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