QueenTiye, on May 7 2007, 04:58 PM, said:
Life for Rent, on May 5 2007, 05:02 PM, said:
It would be nice if they found some other cause besides feeling they have to let us know we're sinners and need them to save us from ourselves. Today on the readio I turned across a talk radio guy and one of his callers was going on about how the U.S. is like Rome and that if homosexuals get rights then it's over, so melodramatic.
I have to say the far religious right has turned me off to religion so if the more moderate people who use their faith for inspiration in their lives and good works start getting the headlines I think it would do wonders for God's image. Of course, I'm an agnostic gay man and I admit I've become prone to taking a negative view of people who claim to be Christians as soon as they say they are one b/c of the Falwells, Haggards, Phelps, and Dobsons of the world.
And, back to the topic...
I think the point is that every evangelical Christian is NOT "far right." In fact - the attempt to align any faith-based movement with a political one is doomed for failure precisely because of what this article is talking about. Evangelical christians are deeply concerned about sin of all types - not just homosexual behavior, or abortion. However, some of those issues fall to the right, and some of those issues fall to the left. Any sincere believer ought not to align with one or the other - because neither is going to actually be exactly right - because no political movement is "divinely guided." Simple as that.
So yes - evangelicals aren't going to wake up tomorrow and suddenly thing homosexual behavior is peachy-keen, but lots of them are waking up to the threat of global warming, and taking seriously their belief that they are stewards of the Earth.
And it's their right to believe that something is a sin but putting things into perspective would be a nice change. While they've been throwing a fit over gays, something between the people commiting the homosexual act and god, what more beneficial works could they have been devoting that much attention to in the world? If you read the Bible homosexuals have always been here, even if it is condemned. As has been pointed out numerous times on this board, there are other "abominations" that are listed in the same chapter but it's gone out of fashion to pay heed to them. The truth of the matter is that homosexuals make people uncomfortable even without the Bible passages condeming us. And that's the main reason that the Religious Right has gotten away with vilifying us for so long.
But now there are more homosexuals than ever, and we are all someone's family members, even if they disapprove of the act they will defend us. The RR knows they are gonna lose this one so why not just move to something more beneficial? They believe that homosexuals learn it in childhood. They always like to go on about how science hasn't proven that we are born gay, but it hasn't disproven it yet, and research is showing that we probably are. Oh, ho, they say, but they still choose to act on the feelings. That's right, and it's a little something called none of their damned business.
And even if science doesn't bare it out soon it doesn't account for the fact their are homosexuals from all different upbringings and cultures so there is no common denominator. I know I was born gay the same way any straight person here knows they are straight. If you believe some of the people on the right everyone is just homosexual if they would allow themselves to be. I think the truth is, the Ted Haggard's have been in charge of the Religious intitutions for a while. They can't control their own temptations, especially if homosexuality were around. Really, go forth and multiply, but Priests don't have to obey the CREATOR'S main commandment? Their only focus is to be god and his work? A pope can override a commandment of GOD?
Someone here once compared homosexuality to bankrobbing. No, a comparable thing would be a blowjob or anal sex between a man and a woman or sex out of wedlock. Sure, for dramatic flair it's called an abomination but so are mixed blends and shrimp and as I said those are all okay now. I sometimes watch religious broadcasting, there was a black preacher out of Los Angeles, he was on WGN on the satelite, and he was preaching against homosexuality but he didn't stop there, he was talking about any kind of sex beyond the kind for missionary procreation. Even if I didn't like what he was saying, he wasn't letting the straight people in his crowd off the hook either.
Of course, we do have to remember, America is now Rome, Soddam, and Gamorrah, so the global warming is punishment for us homosexuals via Robertson and Phelps. Couldn't be that people love to drive and consume more than their fair share. No, you could be a homosexual envirnmentalist and it would all land at your doorstep still. Hell, if they want to really worry about getting people to not sin, the first one they should be confronting is the obesity epic in their own ranks. The body is a temple and doing harmful things to your body is slow suicide, and it's wrong to kill yourself, or so they claim when they won't allow doctor assisted suicide for people who are dying horribly. I'm just glad I'm not religious, but I do think there might be higher power.