QueenTiye, on Feb 10 2008, 12:03 AM, said:
Let's not turn on one another just because we disagreeIssued by QueenTiye
That is for everyone in the thread. It is a touchy issue, and I'd like to see us bring our best of our efforts at civil discourse.
No can do. I wrote this post, and I'm posting it. I already knew I'd get a warning. Sometimes it is just worth it. Just so you know, I am taking a time out from here, so no need to tell me to turn off the computer and take a walk
A long time ago when I was I guess 18 or 19, I went to visit a friend of mine in Venice. The one in California, not in Italy. Anyway, she had just moved in with her boyfriend and she wanted me to see the place on one of the canals.
I drove over and we chatted and I met the boyfriend, and at some point he suggested that she go to the store and get some more beer and something for dinner. To which she said, "Oh good idea" and left. I strayed at their apt.
Almost as soon as she was gone the boyfriend made a pass at me. I was really young and sort of shocked by it and said something stupid and naive like "how could you do that to your girlfriend".
Like I said it was lame.
He replied, "You're a racist," when I rejected his advances.
You see he was black. I remember the speed with which my mind processed his comments and what had really happened. He had somehow turned my refusal or rejection into some kind of racial thing. It never occurred to him that he was just flat out being an *a$$h*le and cheating on his girlfriend.
I tell this story to illustrate something for the people who think this is about being a Conservative or a Liberal. It isn't. Just like my friend's boyfriend, the people I'm taking about in OT are just plain assholes. But instead of seeing that some of you deflect the conversation back to partisanship. Like he claimed I was racist, now some of you claim I'm whining about Conservatives.
An *a$$h*le is an *a$$h*le. It knows no limitations and no group owns the copyright.
It isn't about what disagreements may abound around here ,or how excited they get, or how partisan they get. Although I'm sure some would like to keep it about that instead of just looking at how crazy a few really are--and no Rob
I am not taking about you, but if you want to include yourself in the group I'm describing, I can't stop you. I don't think you belong in that group but if you insist, I can certainly adjust my POV concerning you. Neither am I talking abut scherzo
. I agree with QT, he uses sarcasm and tries to be satirical, but he isn't a nut job. I just disagree with him most of the time. That's just part of life and livingness. People disagree. It's cool in my book. People disagree with me all the time.
I'm not talking about disagreement or even gut wrenching harsh disagreement. I'm talking about whacked out nut cases.
is just crazy. There I've said it. If we were back in the 50's he would have led the charge for the McCarthy hearings. He is just that off the wall, whacked out, crazy. He's not crazy because he is a Conservative. He'd be crazy if he was a Liberal.
You can all pat him on the head and try to find some gem in his posts to admire, but the truth is it is literally nothing but hate speech. I lost count of the groups he would like to see dead, including me personally. And while I know I'm not really threatened by G or his words, I am tired of the way he is enabled around here. He's like Helen Keller at the dinner table in "the Miracle Worker". We all have our conversations over the disruption as G waltzes around spewing his nonsense. I don't care how off policy it is to say so.
And yes, I know I've attacked a member. And yes, I know I will get a warning, and you know what.. I don't care. I will not edit this, so a mod will have to do it for me. Warn me. Ban me. I could give a sh*t at this point. I am sick to death of the kind of toxic manipulative b*llsh*t that passes for discourse from G.
I am so out of here for a while. I am sick to death of the elephant in the room that everyone ignores as if more tolerance and kindness will keep the peace in the community. He is a nut job, and anyone who wants to can make it about Conservatives v. Liberals, but the truth is, it's about assholes.
Edited by Cait, 10 February 2008 - 03:16 AM.