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#1 G1223

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:04 AM

The Jury was out less than an hour and came back with avirdict about the murder of a homeless man whowas hit by a driver. The man was pitched into the windshield and remained there as the woman drove him back to her home and left him in the garage to die from his injuries,

The state had said that She had a brother in law who was a paramedic she could have called also she was near both police and fire stations and the fact that she did not use ANY of these options makes this murder.

She is facing life in prison and 10 years for obstruction of justice.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:09 AM

And she should.  I can understand that she was frightened but she had multiple opportunities to get some assistance and she didn't.  She tried twice to get rid of his body before he had died without offering or getting assistance of any kind. She left him to die on her car, in her garage.  He might have lived.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:09 AM

I agree with the verdict.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:10 AM

She did, however, call several of her friends who came over, surveyed the situation and didn't call 911 either. I'm surprised they weren't charged with reckless endangerment or accessory after the fact. Perhaps the DA cut deals, since they all testified for the prosecution. That a number of people did nothing to help this man is appalling.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 06:11 AM

I'm on-board. I've heard some complaining that the verdict isn't exactly compliant with the letter of the law... but there's no punishment too harsh for what she did.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 07:29 AM

Cardie, on Jun 26 2003, 01:11 PM, said:

She did, however, call several of her friends who came over, surveyed the situation and didn't call 911 either. I'm surprised they weren't charged with reckless endangerment or accessory after the fact. Perhaps the DA cut deals, since they all testified for the prosecution. That a number of people did nothing to help this man is appalling.
However, I do believe the man was long dead by the time she called any of her friends... But, yes, 911 would have been an appropriate call even then.

I just got back from Fort Worth yesterday. It was all they could talk about on radio and TV. Gruesome, gruesome case. You should have heard some of the testimony... Ick.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 07:37 AM

I still can't believe she claimed it was an accident. Can you imagine driving home with a bleeding, gasping man embedded in your windshield and leaving him there to die? :eek:  :eek:
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 07:39 AM

Rhea, on Jun 26 2003, 01:38 PM, said:

I still can't believe she claimed it was an accident. Can you imagine driving home with a bleeding, gasping man embedded in your windshield and leaving him there to die? :eek:  :eek:
For most people, it's just a phase.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 08:55 AM

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:01 PM

I hope she gets the max sentence allowed by law.

And as for her friends, who didn't call 911 or try to get this man some help...IMO, they should also be charged with accessory to murder...but, guess the DA cut them a deal.

Such is the way the legal system works.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:27 PM

RPITA, on Jun 26 2003, 03:30 PM, said:

Cardie, on Jun 26 2003, 01:11 PM, said:

She did, however, call several of her friends who came over, surveyed the situation and didn't call 911 either. I'm surprised they weren't charged with reckless endangerment or accessory after the fact. Perhaps the DA cut deals, since they all testified for the prosecution. That a number of people did nothing to help this man is appalling.
However, I do believe the man was long dead by the time she called any of her friends... But, yes, 911 would have been an appropriate call even then.

I just got back from Fort Worth yesterday. It was all they could talk about on radio and TV. Gruesome, gruesome case. You should have heard some of the testimony... Ick.

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Even if he was dead, they should be charged with obstruction of justice or concealing a body or something like that.  :glare:

Texas has the death penalty, right?

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:32 PM

I believe they were convicted of tampering with evidence.  One got 9 years the other 10.

And yes, Texas has the death penalty.

Edited by gadfly, 27 June 2003 - 01:33 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:44 PM

gadfly, on Jun 26 2003, 09:33 PM, said:

I believe they were convicted of tampering with evidence.  One got 9 years the other 10.

Well, that's something anyway.

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And yes, Texas has the death penalty.
I thought so. I'm kind of surprised that wasn't the sentance. This was definitely a case of callous disregard for human life. I wonder if it was because it was initially an accident when she hit him?

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:51 PM

I think the reason was the fact there were folks saying as monsterous as the act was there were some who thought it was man slaughter andI think they got her on 2nd degree murder rather tha 1st. which is where the penalty comes into play.
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 01:52 PM

The prosecution didn't seek the death penalty. I'm not sure the facts of the case met the requirements for capital murder, heinous as they were. One of the friends did come to the home before the man died; the other helped her dispose of the body. I'm glad to know that they didn't get off lightly.

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Posted 27 June 2003 - 02:30 PM

Ummm...she didn't call the cops because she was drunk and stoned on esctacy, you know. I'm assuming the friends she called were similarly incapacitated.

I heard an excerpt from her speaking this evening and she was crying and gasping something about having spent the time it took the man to die, "praying for guidance" or something.

I'm just...I can understand how you'd panic and not know what to do, but it was a human being and it was murder.

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 01:32 AM

AnneZo, on Jun 26 2003, 08:31 PM, said:

Ummm...she didn't call the cops because she was drunk and stoned on esctacy, you know. I'm assuming the friends she called were similarly incapacitated.

I heard an excerpt from her speaking this evening and she was crying and gasping something about having spent the time it took the man to die, "praying for guidance" or something.

I'm just...I can understand how you'd panic and not know what to do, but it was a human being and it was murder.
Well, hell, drunked, stoned or not, if I had a human being imbedded and bleeding in my windshield, I think I *might* pull over, stagger to a phone and call 911.  :sarcasm:
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Posted 28 June 2003 - 01:51 AM

Well, so would I. I'm just pointing out that she wasn't innocently driving down the street with nothing to fear from calling the cops.  She knew she'd wind up behind bars the second they looked at her.

While that wouldn't have stopped me from calling 911 (why, yes, I did once turn myself in for drunk driving), it would freak out a lot of people, especially if they were stoned at well as drunk.

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 02:06 AM

Another victim of the former coldhearted governor Bush.

Seriously, I read months ago that the woman sobbed and apologized to the man, who was conscious and talking, but she wouldn't help him. She deserves the max.

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Posted 28 June 2003 - 03:24 AM

Ogami, on Jun 27 2003, 10:07 AM, said:

Another victim of the former coldhearted governor Bush.

Seriously, I read months ago that the woman sobbed and apologized to the man, who was conscious and talking, but she wouldn't help him. She deserves the max.

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I remember hearing the same thing. Its just sick.  :(



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