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#1 Spectacles

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:38 PM

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Obese children as young as 10 had the arteries of 45-year-olds and other heart abnormalities that greatly raise their risk of heart disease, say doctors who used ultrasound tests to take a peek inside.

"As the old saying goes, you're as old as your arteries are," said Dr. Geetha Raghuveer of Children's Hospital in Kansas City, who led one of the studies. "This is a wake-up call."

The studies were reported Tuesday at an American Heart Association conference.

About a third of American children are overweight and one-fifth are obese. Many parents think that "baby fat" will melt away as kids get older. But research increasingly shows that fat kids become fat adults, with higher risks for many health problems.


More alarming studies are cited, describing the damaging effects of being overweight on children's hearts.


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A third study by Dr. Walter Abhayaratna of Australian National University in Canberra, Australia, also used ultrasound tests and found impairment in the heart's ability to relax between beats in children who were overweight or obese.

The study involved the first 150 children participating in a larger community-based study.

Earlier research he helped conduct found more rigid arteries in such children - a possible sign of plaque deposits starting to form.

"Even at this young age of 10, you can have children who have got arterial stiffness who are comparable to 30- and 40-year-olds," he said.

Dr. Michael Schloss, a New York University heart disease prevention specialist, said the evidence shows obesity is more than a cosmetic issue for children.

"If you've seen what's on the menu for most school lunches, these findings are no surprise," he said. "The time has come to seriously deal with the issue of childhood obesity and physical inactivity on a governmental and parental level."

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:50 PM

I agree that the lunches served at schools certainly aren't helping matters.  Granted, I've been out of high schoool for nearly 8 years now, but I remember the lunches offered being full of fat and salt.  Maybe they've improved since then, but I doubt it.  Our school did offer a salad bar, but you had to pay more to eat it.

I understand that the doctors and government are wanting to go after what they can regulate, by going after school lunches.  But the major problem doesn't come from the school.  It comes from what happens after the kiddies get out of school.  You've got two, maybe three generations out there who cannot cook actual meals for themselves.  The parents are often absent, at work, when the kids get home.  That leaves no one around to make the kids go do something instead of sitting down to play endless hours of video gams, surfing on the internet, and watching TV.  It also leaves no one around who can cook even remotely healthy meals for the kid.  Too often the kids have two meals a day coming out of boxes and/or fastfood wrappers instead of pots and pans.

It's going to require a major shift in attitude and priorities before anything is done about obesity in general, let alone just for kids.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 12:32 AM

I believe it.  There are a lot of kids at our local elementary school who are already suffering from obesity, with bad diets, sedentary habits and barely anyone walking to school all contributing to the problem.  I consider myself lucky in that my own children are like Siberian huskies--- they go crazy if they're not exercised regularly.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 01:00 AM

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:51 AM

We need laws to prevent these children from being around adults who are overweight. We need to force into their heads that Fat is bad. We need to go after the fat folks like we do with smokers.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 07:32 AM

A friend of mine has already had one heart attack. He weighed in at 300 pounds and smoked. He quit smoking and lost 50 pounds. Hopefully he'll keep taking better care of himslf.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 08:28 AM

View PostG1223, on Nov 12 2008, 04:51 AM, said:

We need laws to prevent these children from being around adults who are overweight. We need to force into their heads that Fat is bad. We need to go after the fat folks like we do with smokers.


Wanted to add. we need to force into children's minds that skinny is good. Like Paris Hilton or the like after a bulmic binge.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 09:24 AM

There is a healthy medium between Paris Hilton and being the size of a Sumo Wrestler.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 09:51 AM

View PostG1223, on Nov 12 2008, 06:28 AM, said:

View PostG1223, on Nov 12 2008, 04:51 AM, said:

We need laws to prevent these children from being around adults who are overweight. We need to force into their heads that Fat is bad. We need to go after the fat folks like we do with smokers.


Wanted to add. we need to force into children's minds that skinny is good. Like Paris Hilton or the like after a bulmic binge.


Or maybe we could make sure that school lunches are healthier and that kids exercise more.  :eek2:  LOL those damn liberals and their elitist eating habits and always working out.  Pretty soon we'll all have to line at dusk for State enforced Calisthenics.  Oh crap, where's my copy of "1984."  :eek4:

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 02:58 PM

Maybe also a health class early on, teaching kids what to eat and why. Not forcing one diet, but educating them why eating a head of broccoli is better than greasy bacon, lean mieats versus fatty meats, veggies, fruits, proteins, GOOD carbohydrates. We can't just force these people to do what's best for them, but we can make sure they have means available to do it for themselves.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:10 PM

I think the reintroduction of home ec classes wouldn't be a bad thing.  Or the "bachelor living" classes that some high schools replaced more traditional home ec courses with.  Teach kids how to make a few simple cheap meals that aren't a heart attack in a box.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:06 PM

View PostAnnibal, on Nov 12 2008, 02:58 PM, said:

Maybe also a health class early on, teaching kids what to eat and why. Not forcing one diet, but educating them why eating a head of broccoli is better than greasy bacon, lean mieats versus fatty meats, veggies, fruits, proteins, GOOD carbohydrates. We can't just force these people to do what's best for them, but we can make sure they have means available to do it for themselves.



LOL when in pre-prekindergarden?  We have been teaching health in school at least as early as first grade when kids are starting to learn to read. We put these posters up we have the school give out these lunches. LOL Why allow parents to keep the kids they are getting the fatty food from somewhere. No we must save these kids by taking them away and making them work at being healthy.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:33 PM

View PostAnnibal, on Nov 12 2008, 02:58 PM, said:

Maybe also a health class early on, teaching kids what to eat and why. Not forcing one diet, but educating them why eating a head of broccoli is better than greasy bacon, lean mieats versus fatty meats, veggies, fruits, proteins, GOOD carbohydrates. We can't just force these people to do what's best for them, but we can make sure they have means available to do it for themselves.


I had all of that in grade school. You can educate all you want, but people learn there eating habits before they ever hit school. I has to come from home.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 06:43 PM

I've never been that active and never been thin.  But I grew up when stay-at-home moms were the norm and mostly where it was safe and expected to walk to school.  And even though I hated it, I had to take PE.  Do kids still have to take PE?  My mom's cooking would raise a few eyebrows now on fat (didn't in the '50's), but we always had balanced meals with salads and veggies.  I don't even remember what we had for school lunches, but since breakfast and dinner were at home, it wasn't a problem.  I honestly have no idea how a mom can do meals right these days if she works.  I suppose she could spend all weekend cooking and dividing up meals for during the week... I'm all for moms working if they have a real career they want to pursue, but nutrition started to go downhill when most moms had to work.  

Nowadays many parents deem it unsafe for their kids to walk to school; I even see parents waiting with the kids at the bus stop.  Kids are driven to "play dates" instead of biking around the neighborhood on their own.  It's a different world from when I grew up and the obesity problem isn't all due to computers and Happy Meals.  I used to get home from school or college classes and watch tv and do homework.  But I'd walked around the campus, had PE, walked home and had balanced meals at home.  I biked over to friends' houses on the weekends or took the bus and then walked*.  That natural exercise made a difference.  *and there were no cell phones or GPS devices so parents and kids could be in constant contact!
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 08:07 PM

Again this is why kids need to be state raised. No parents to get in the way. No social contacts to form stable people but now they will think as Big Leader... wants. No being fat means the group will help the fat child to become thin. and if that means beating him then he will learn.  I mean if we are going to force all kids to fit into the model of what the ..."Fat Nazi's" are wanting why allow people the freedom to be free to choose their lives.

Then again folks here did warn the smoke nazi's the day would come to where the doctors would find the ways to force folks to eat and drink and exist as the would be controllers want.  Here is the next round.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 08:18 PM

View Postsilverwind, on Nov 11 2008, 03:50 PM, said:

I agree that the lunches served at schools certainly aren't helping matters.  Granted, I've been out of high schoool for nearly 8 years now, but I remember the lunches offered being full of fat and salt.  Maybe they've improved since then, but I doubt it.  Our school did offer a salad bar, but you had to pay more to eat it.

Sounds about right. Unhealthy food is almost always cheap food. With schools desperately trying to save money, it's not a surprise that lunches are one of the first things to slide.
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