Lord of the Sword, on Feb 4 2009, 10:27 PM, said:
CJ AEGIS, on Feb 4 2009, 07:44 PM, said:
^Tax another vice then.
I'll give Obama points where he deserves it. And this time he deserves it especialy if the extra taxes on smoking pay for a good part of the increases.
Yeah, just tax another vice...
What actually is wrong with the concept of the vice tax? I mean, should we tax virtue instead?
I'm gonna combine two of your posts here:
heaven forbid we make the dead beat parents who are broke a$$ freeloaders, who want other people to support their brats, pay for their own kids.
And it is precisely this attiude...of having other people pay for your sh*t (by your I mean people in general, not you specifically BklnScott) that the economy is in the tank. It the reason we have "bailouts" and the whole 9 yards. In today's society it is all about NOT taking responsibility for yourself. About having other people pay your way, or your bills, or your kid's bills...and if you run your business into the ground because you didn't know what you were doing...Well, then we'll bail you out of that too....Heaven forbid you clean up your own mess.
I agree in broad strokes with the idea that people should have to pay their own way in this world. I certainly do. I stand in line at the bodega by my apt and watch people buy junk food and beer with their WIC cards, and it disgusts me. Take some responsibility for yourselves, for god's sake! -- starting with the responsibility to NOT procreate if you can't afford it.
The question is, what do we do once that ship has sailed? Do we, as a society, say, "oh, well, people are irresponsible -- who cares if their brats go hungry, or have no healthcare?"
NO. We're the only country in the western world that doesn't guarantee healthcare to its children. The only one.
To me, that's a source of incredible embarrassment, and I'm glad to see we're moving to close that gap. I'm also glad that this will be the first step in moving to cover ALL Americans who can't afford their own health insurance. Once all kids are covered, we should move to all senior citizens. Eventually we'll meet in the middle.
Robert Hewitt Wolfe, on Feb 5 2009, 01:52 AM, said:
Ghost Rider, on Feb 4 2009, 04:29 PM, said:
hey-why stop there? Legalize coke and heroin and do the same with that.
I'm for that, for the record. Me likely vice taxes, no likely "War on Drugs" boondoggles. Legalize all vice and tax the everloving hell out of it, I say.
Ding ding ding -- We have a winner!