Captain Jack, on Feb 10 2010, 02:58 PM, said:
Dev F, on Feb 10 2010, 10:30 AM, said:
Captain Jack, on Feb 9 2010, 11:13 PM, said:
Believe me, they've been resisting the Republican ideas from the get-go. They thought they could ram-rod THEIR HC bill down American's throats
Again, you're totally missing the substance of QT's original post, which was that six major Republican ideas are represented in the Senate's version of the health care bill
. You already posted a response in which you talked about how great you thought these ideas were, so I'd think you'd be gratified by the fact that the Senate bill incorporated them, instead of acting like it's some dyed-in-the-wool liberal vision of health care reform.
I think QT can speak for herself. Thank you. And the fact is, Democrats HAVE resisted Republican ideas from the get go. The House's version is void of anyy Republican proposals. And the Senate version goes far beyond what Republicans want to see in the HC bill. So, yeah, still very much resistant to look at the more simplistic and clear cut Republican approach to HC reform.
I can. And, my point is - in our system of government, there's no such thing as a piece of legislation without compromise. The bill that is the likeliest to become law if any of the bills do, contains 6 very key republican ideas. And they are based (as the President has said) on Republicans bringing them forward. AND, as the President said, some of the republican ideas were not ones he felt would work as written
, but with tweaks, they could be made to work. Similarly, some of the democratic ideas were put forward, and rejected, or tweaked.
The outrage over health care reform is boiled down to the following:
1. The democrats aren't listening to republicans (false)
2. The republican ideas are being ignored (false)
3. The bill goes farther than republicans want it to. (OF COURSE!)
If indeed republicans feel that democratic ideas are so anathema that they would rather kill any thing at all than to let any of those ideas get passed into law, then what's the point of trying to compromise? There can be no compromise, if the only compromise is "my way or the highway." And in our government, "my way or the highway" usually means the highway wins.
I'm independent, and I'm done talking about any of this. Period. I'm all done. But I will say this. It seems shameful to me that we are so easily divided, and so quick to make things all about republican/democrat, liberal/conservative, me/you, instead of seeing where OUR best interests lie. So long as politicians can score points by dividing us, it seems that they will keep doing so. But shame on us for letting them.