Palisade, on Mar 30 2010, 09:25 AM, said:
I would be against Medicare-for-All if it underpaid providers like Medicare does since this results in the providers engaging in cost shifting to make people with private insurance pick up the tab. I don't remember what Sen. Grayson's bill did regarding provider payment rates.
I don't think there was anything in the bill about provider payments. It was only about opening it to everyone, I think. Improving payments to providers is a tax issue, and IMO Medicare is underfunded, but as we all know, we wouldn't dare increase taxes over something like this (or SS-but that's another thread).
Palisade, on Mar 30 2010, 09:56 AM, said:
Nick, on Mar 30 2010, 09:43 AM, said:
I have little hope this will get out of committee but has the bill been truly killed yet?
I see the distinction you're making, but if the Democrats were going to move on it, I'd think they'd have stuck it in the reconciliation bill.
Everyone in congress was, IMNSHO, bought out by big insurance and big pharma in order to get this bill to pass (since it was a giant gift to them with a pretty pink..er..blue bow attached to it), any public option would probably have to be in a separate bill to stand a snowball's chance in hell. And as much as I'd like to see a national public option (which I firmly believe is needed in order to prevent insurance companies from doing whatever the hell they want), it will probably wind up being state based, which is the direction single payer seems to be going. I understand that CA has tried twice to pass it, but Gov Schwarzenegger vetoed it. I think Pennsylvania is also trying for one right now too.
But I agree, I don't think this will ever make it out of committee
. But it does have 81 cosponsers, how many does it need to force it way out of committee and into a vote?
Themis, on Mar 30 2010, 09:59 AM, said:
Yes, seniors pay - $90+ this year for part A (hospital), more for Parts B (drs/office visits) and Part whatever - prescriptions. Or something else entirely for Medicare Advantage Plans that wrap it all into one, through insurance companies. I'll be looking into everything more in a couple of months. Insurance guy said to wait and see what legislation does to all the programs...
I thought that premiums seniors pay depended on how much they've worked in the 10 previous years. I honestly don't know much about Medicare, but only because I'll likely never get use it. All this part A, B, D-alphabet soup confuses me. So is the claim that Medicare needs to be privatized, or is already privatized....
Pretty much all I know is I pay a fairly small tax into it, and it doesn't pay doctors well, so they limit the number of people they see on Medicare/aid, but a lot of people love it.....