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Obituaries Kim Jong-Il North Korea 2011

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#1 Nick

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:28 PM

http://www.aljazeera...3620221153.html

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In September 2010, Kim Jong Il unveiled his third son, the twenty-something Kim Jong-Un, as his successor, putting him in high-ranking posts.

"Just a couple of days ago, it was publicised that he was visiting a military installation," Don Kirk of the Christian Science Monitor told Al Jazeera.

"Obviously there will be a long period of pubilc mourning in the country, but the sense is that at least he organised his succession with [his son] Kim Jong-Un taking over."

I don't know much about this son, but I hope for South Korea's sake the new leadership doesn't do anything rash...

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 10:50 PM

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:04 PM

let's hope the son is a better leader than his father and doesn't give his people more suffering.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:08 PM

Just caught this on CNN as I was booting up my G4. I can't help but wonder if his son will be a puppet leader, given his youth and inexperience.  :whatsthat:
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:32 PM

If the date of birth is correct on his Wikipedia page, I am two days older then him.  I want to rule my own country, but admittedly, I would rather it not be North Korea.  Perhaps one of the smaller European countries to get my feet wet.

I hope that he turns out to be a 'saner' ruler then his father was.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 11:56 PM

View PostArdenCabbel, on 18 December 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:

I hope that he turns out to be a 'saner' ruler then his father was.

Doubtful.  According to an article at ABS-CBNnews.com:

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Kenji Fujimoto of Japan said that of the three sons, the youngest, Kim Jong-un, most resembled his father.

So in this case, like father, like son?

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:56 AM

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:40 AM

I hope that this is good news for Korea as a whole and the rest of the world as well.
But with all of those old guard Generals I doubt it's good news...     :unsure:

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:06 PM

With the death of his "Dear Leader" father, Kim Jong-Un becomes the only fat man in North Korea.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 05:46 PM

View PostBatrochides, on 19 December 2011 - 05:06 PM, said:

With the death of his "Dear Leader" father, Kim Jong-Un becomes the only fat man in North Korea.

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Oooooooooooooooo..... :eek3:

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 06:08 PM

I cannot BELIEVE how much the western press is covering these scenes of orchestrated public grief,
all are leading on top front page with this fake tripe and it's upsetting; aint there real news in the
world today??
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 06:12 PM

Here's a pretty interesting collection of facts about Kim Jong-Il:http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/northkorea.jpg
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:11 PM

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 08:33 PM

Well, if he was educated in Switzerland, maybe some shreds of human decency rubbed off on him--I'm not holding my breath though.  I suspect we'll see more of the same, just a continuation of the status quo, but there's still lots of opportunity for things to go badly for everybody.

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 09:28 PM

From what I heard on CNN this morning, I doubt in the short term he will be any different than his father was for 2 reasons.

1. He may go more hardline to shore up support from the military.

2. His aunt and Uncle had ALOT of power, which leads me to beleive THEY will be the ones calling the shots (at least in the shortrun).
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Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:37 PM

He was so ronely.  :noevil:
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 04:05 AM

View PostDWF, on 19 December 2011 - 10:37 PM, said:

He was so ronely.  :noevil:

And he was very il. ;)

His son is un-il. :p
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 08:10 AM

I would like to have hope that things will be different with the son now as leader...but I can't.  

This son was chosen to replace his father... his older brothers passed over.  Which tells me that he is more in step with Daddy's beliefs and ways than those brothers.  So not a whole lot of change likely.

Then you add in those old generals and the old 'guard' wanting to maintain their control, no doubt keeping the 'young one' in check.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:57 PM

North Korea To Punish Mourners Who Were Insincere

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... An anonymous source tells the Daily NK, a South Korea-based publication in opposition of the North Korean regime, that "authorities are handing down at least six months in a labor-training camp to anybody who didn't participate in the organized gatherings" to mourn the death of Supreme Leader Kim Jong Il, and to those "who did participate but didn't cry and didn't seem genuine."

Newser reports that mourners who came off as insincere have already been sent to join the 200,000 other North Koreans already in labor camps. An Amnesty International report published in May 2011 paints a dark picture of what's in store at those camps -- estimates suggest that 40 percent of inmates die of malnutrition....
I held off joking about the insincerity because I had a bad feeling about it.    :(
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 06:28 PM

View PostArdenCabbel, on 18 December 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:

If the date of birth is correct on his Wikipedia page, I am two days older then him.  I want to rule my own country, but admittedly, I would rather it not be North Korea.  Perhaps one of the smaller European countries to get my feet wet.

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