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#1 offworlder

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

AFter all the conventions, the sidetracks, the chit-chat, the tit-for-tat, the rhetoric, the talking-heads, the soundbytes, the one-over-on-you, ... what's it all about? what's the real issue? does Romney really have the right answer? in the midst of his attempts at message, what is his right answer? what's the truth and reality for Barack? and can the American people win?

http://www.guardian....-inspire-voters
' The tone of urgency was notable. The 2008 version of Obama had no trouble getting people to go to the ballot box during his historic election win. But in 2012 it is a different game. Battered by the realities of four years in office and with a party base that often believes he has let them down, Obama is facing an enthusiasm gap as he prepares to rally Democrats at their nomination convention in Charlotte, North Carolina[/background] '[/color]

PS, edit, sorry, must edit these colour backgrounds the editor put in without me!Keeps putting those back in, on the Blue skin >

(me)[/background]After the hope and change we got, what can we get, from Barack? what can really be done, by Barack, for the American people- or by Romney if he's in there?

They both say this is really about jobs, but in all the soundbytes did we get what Romney or Barack can really do, or will really do, for our jobs?

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Luckily for Obama, Romney and the Republicans have given him plenty of ammunition, from hidden tax returns to the latest flap over Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin's comments about "legitimate rape." Congress, where Republicans run the House and have veto power in the Democrat-run Senate, has sunk to its lowest favorable rating in history: 10%.
For the president to succeed in Charlotte, he needs to explain a series of differences: between the economy he inherited and the one he oversees; between the world at war and the progress toward peace; and between a wealthy opponent and a president who sees himself as defender of the middle class.'
http://www.usatoday....list/57460872/1

' "A strong story needs to be told about how the president helped rescue an economy in free fall and helped protect our national security interests during very tough times," says Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., one of the Democrats' top political strategists. "Then you lay out the choices for the future."

' Turning to the future, Obama can turn the tables on Congress, whose popularity may be lower than debt collectors'. Obama is almost certain to tout his plans — blocked by Republicans — to put teachers, police, firefighters and construction workers back to work.
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"He needs to let others carry most of the indictment," says Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania. "The way you motivate people to vote is to make the alternative worse. Their job is to create a comparison."
Obama hopes to turn Republicans' determination to extend all the Bush tax cuts against them, which may be a risky strategy. Though he favors higher taxes just for the wealthy, the specter of higher taxes didn't do wonders for Democratic nominee Walter Mondale in 1984.
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ps, and from that guardian one,
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The situation also explains the staggering level of negativity in the all-important "ad wars" flung at the Romney camp. Obama's team, led by famed "hatchet man" David Axelrod, has assaulted voters in vital swing states with brutal takedowns of Romney. They have featured Romney singing off-key, speculated openly that he might not pay taxes and played dirty when it comes taking remarks out of context. A low point came when Democratic Senate leader Harry Reid speculated publicly that Romney might not have paid tax for a decade, even while admitting he had no idea if the allegations were true.[/background]
It is a long way from the sunny optimism of 2008. "This has been a dismal election campaign," said Larry Haas, a political expert and former aide in the Bill Clinton White House. However, Haas believes that Obama still has key advantages such as the organisation left over from the 2008 campaign that will provide hard-to-beat numbers of boots on the ground. "The president built a very impressive operation in 2008 and he has spent four more years building it up. That will ensure he gets the maximum number of people out to vote," Haas said.[/background][/color]
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So beyond all the bizarre actor, and bizarre sendups and videos, what?

Edited by offworlder, 02 September 2012 - 08:27 PM.

"(Do you read what they say online?) I check out all these scandalous rumours about me and Elijah Wood having beautiful sex with each other ... (are they true?) About Elijah and me being boyfriend and boyfriend? Absolutely true. We've been together for about nine years. I wooed him. No I just like a lot of stuff - I like that someone says one thing and it becomes fact. It's kind of fun." --Dominic Monaghan in a phone interview with Newsweek while buying DVDs at the store. :D

#2 offworlder

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:21 PM

Maybe this is a big part of what it's all about,

http://www.telegraph...-Ryan-show.html

sounds like a Tory lady, and she says it's a fantasy, but she makes a big point, that the two things are a dichotomy that cannot co exist, the capitalist free market society, and the socialist welfare systems; the bigger point, whether you agree with her conclusions or not, is that she shines the spotlight on the dichotomy, on the societies, on the importance of this determining election, especially since Ryan is now in the mix, and she addresses it not as an American thing, but the whole 'West' ; the EU nations, and remember how some touted the Swedish and other Scan ways, and the protections for workers in France, and the German gov protections in their economy, & etc

; but that this is a huge issue that the whole West should watch, see how this developes, and decisions are coming for all the countries set up like the EU ones, and like the United States; the Australia, CAN, just the whole West.

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.. exposed a devastating truth that went much deeper than the discovery of a generation of delinquent bankers, or a transitory property bubble. It has become apparent to anyone with a grip on economic reality that free markets simply cannot produce enough wealth to support the sort of universal entitlement programmes which the populations of democratic countries have been led to expect. The fantasy may be sustained for a while by the relentless production of phoney money to fund benefits and job-creation projects, until..
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Then he took the startling step of appointing Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate, and the earth moved. If Romney was the embodiment of the spirit of a free market, Ryan was its prophet. His speech at the convention was so dangerous to the Obama Democrats, with their aspirations toward European-style democratic socialism, that they unleashed their “fact checkers” to find mistakes (“lies”) in it. (Remember the old Yes Minister joke: “You can always accuse them of errors of detail, sir. There are always some errors of detail”.) When Romney and Ryan offer their arguments to the American people, they are, of course, at an advantage over almost any British or European politician. Contrary to what many know-nothing British observers seem to think, the message coming out of Tampa was not Tea Party extremism. It was just a reassertion of the basic values of American political culture: self-determination, individual aspiration and genuine community, as opposed to belief in the state as the fount of all social virtue. Romney caught this rather nicely in his acceptance speech, with the comment that the US was built on the idea of “a system that is dedicated to creating tomorrow’s prosperity rather than trying to redistribute today’s.” '
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I'm no Tory, but she shines some spotlights we ALL should see, and watch; how will our world look in a decade?
"(Do you read what they say online?) I check out all these scandalous rumours about me and Elijah Wood having beautiful sex with each other ... (are they true?) About Elijah and me being boyfriend and boyfriend? Absolutely true. We've been together for about nine years. I wooed him. No I just like a lot of stuff - I like that someone says one thing and it becomes fact. It's kind of fun." --Dominic Monaghan in a phone interview with Newsweek while buying DVDs at the store. :D



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