scherzo, on 04 November 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:
For the record...few things piss-off the hard left more than FACTS. A "fact-based" world couldn't possibly excuse an administration whose incompetence caused the death of an American ambassador, or vote for a POTUS who deliberately deceived the public about who was responsible.
I hate to ever say, "but your side did it too", but in this case I'm going to because the FACTS and the difference in magnitude are so stark. Mind you I am not blaming Obama's mistakes and incompetence on Bush. I think Obama owns his 4 years. I think he inherited a bad situation, but everything he did to fix it [or not] he owns.
But, the Bush Administration's record can be used to argue a case for not putting the GOP back in charge, especially when some of the same Neo-Cons that advised Bush are on the Romney team, and since you bring up voting, under these circumstances the Bush record is relevant.
GW Bush lied us into a decade long war that killed thousands of our soldiers and hundred's of thousands of civilians in Iraq. But, the way you tell it, this would be just a footnote in history. The right wing radio and TV would deny it even happened.
Yet Benghazi [even if Obama did make dreadful mistakes, a point I am not conceding, but even if he did] is not a dire enough situation to put the reins of government back into the same hands [and same advisers] that brought us Iraq, warrantless wiretapping of US Citizens, The Patriot Act, The Military Commissions Act, the outing of Valerie Plame, the incompetence of FEMA in Hurricane Katrina, the increase in the debt, Tom Delay, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Abu Ghraib, Libby, you name it.
Make no mistake, any time a US citizen is killed it is of concern. I'm not minimizing the deaths in Benghazi, but to hear the right tell it, it is worse than Watergate? Are you kidding me? Watergate wasn't even as bad as the Bush administration, and not enough time has elapsed for anyone to forget how bad it really was. Maybe in 2016 people will have forgotten how reckless, and incompetent, and fatal the Bush administration was, but not in 2012, And we should vote for a Republican with the same damn advisers in many cases that brought us the GW Bush administration?
So, you go on your Benghazi rant. You go on and on about how bad Obama is. Me, I know how to judge magnitude when it comes to incompetence. I know how to do a body count.