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#1 Orpheus

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:18 AM

New evidence reopens a thirty-year-old murder case and Dax's previous host, Curzon, is the prime suspect.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

Is there an behind-the-scenes reason O'Brien doesn't appear?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

He was probably filming a movie, since he didn't appear here and the next two episodes, "THE PASSENGER" and "MOVE ALONG HOME".

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

^^^Was he shooting the snapper?  (A decent adaption of the roddy mcdoyle book?).

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:28 AM

Maybe it was the darling movie "The Man Who Went Up A Hill And Came Down A Mountain"?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:22 AM

I didn't see that one but do vaguely recall it.  

Or maybe it was just that they had a big cast and world to establish and they didn't have to pay him if he wasn't in the eps.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

View PostBklnScott, on 10 January 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

Or maybe it was just that they had a big cast and world to establish and they didn't have to pay him if he wasn't in the eps.
Judging by how many hoops the writers sometimes jumped through to shoehorn irrelevant cast members into an episode ("We took the Defiant to Earth, but Quark is going to call us on the viewscreen for no good reason!"), I think they had to pay them whether they appeared or not. Except maybe Cirroc Lofton?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:44 AM

View PostDev F, on 10 January 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

View PostBklnScott, on 10 January 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

Or maybe it was just that they had a big cast and world to establish and they didn't have to pay him if he wasn't in the eps.
Judging by how many hoops the writers sometimes jumped through to shoehorn irrelevant cast members into an episode ("We took the Defiant to Earth, but Quark is going to call us on the viewscreen for no good reason!"), I think they had to pay them whether they appeared or not. Except maybe Cirroc Lofton?

From what I know about these things (which shouldn't be considered authoritative), that can vary from actor to actor, based on the contract. Sometimes they'll have a minimum # of episodes and/or shooting days in a season, sometimes they'll be contracted to be in all episodes.

I do believe that, if they've got their name in the opening credits, they get a certain amount of residuals regardless.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

I think the movie THE MAN WHO WENT UP A HILL BUT CAME DOWN A MOUNTAIN was filmed in the hiatus between season 4 and 5.  I think this is true because I remember some banter between O'Brien and Ensign Muniz on "THE SHIP" about him 'climbing mountains in Ireland before you were born' and reading somewhere that it was an in joke reference to the movie he just did.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

This is one of my favorite episodes in the first season, sensibly written and critically important to developing the relationship between Dax and Sisko. The guest performances are of high quality (especially Fionnula Flanigan, terrific in every Trek role she's had) and the dialogue leaps off the screen, not surprising given the writers involved. It's always difficult to put episodes like this in context, where I realize it's perhaps the first that really fleshes out the Trill species. It's impressive that the sheer amount of exposition remains fascinating and doesn't bog down the drama.

I also liked the exciting first act kidnapping sequence, where the stakes were high and you could feel it from everyone involved. The last-minute "saving the day via tractor beam" sequence was especially clever. Also, the scene where Odo manipulates Quark is a classic. "This is blackmail!" "No, it's business... and business is business."
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

I remember one reviewer of this ep. compared it to some of the TNG trial eps. and it is pretty similar to them, to me it was a pretty boring ep. and Jadzia wasn't to my mind a very developed character thoughout the run of the series. The ep. did bring up teh idea that present Trill host might be held accountable for the crimes of a past host, but that idea went nowhere.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:18 PM

The glorious Anne Haney and the marvelous Fionnula Flanagan elevate a decent mystery episode that tries (and fails) to make Dax more interesting.  The writers and actress haven't figured her out yet at this point on the show.

But I'm glad I rewatched it for Anne especially - just adored her (in this and everything else I ever saw her in, including her TNG ep).
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

View Postwritergroupie, on 18 January 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

The glorious Anne Haney and the marvelous Fionnula Flanagan elevate a decent mystery episode that tries (and fails) to make Dax more interesting.  The writers and actress haven't figured her out yet at this point on the show.


I don't think they ever reall succeeded in making Dax interesting which is why Terry Ferrell left the show ultimately.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 08:10 PM

View PostDWF, on 19 January 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

I don't think they ever reall succeeded in making Dax interesting which is why Terry Ferrell left the show ultimately.
I think once they allowed Terry to bring the mischievous twinkle in her eye out more into the actions of the character, Jadzia improved.  But she was never a truly great character, no.  Funny enough, much as I couldn't STAND Ezri (UGH!), I thought she was already a more complex character in her brief time on the show than Jadzia managed to be in multiple seasons.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

This is another great first season episode that still isn't quite DS9 yet. BUt the action scenes are all good, the amazing Bajoran judge is all just great.

Unlike Jill, I have always loved the Dax character, although I will be a guy and say I loved Ezri just...a....little....more due to her magnificent hotness levels.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:31 PM

I always sort of felt like the change in Dax-- from mysterious and reserved at the beginning to card-playing, Klingon-loving rogue-- was a concession to Terry Farrell's acting ability. I could be totally off-base, but I've always felt they needed a really great actress to make their original concept of the character interesting, and Farrell was just sort of okay. So they readjusted the character to something frankly easier, and she did a reasonably good job with it. In the final analysis, I liked Jadzia; she was never in the show's top-five characters, but she ended up okay.

As for Ezri, I'm always torn because I really hated how much they focused on her in season seven, but she was really cute and I think there was the basis of a good character there, if they just hadn't pushed so hard...

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

[Quark] Ezri Dax can push on me any time she wants. [/Quark] :blush:

ahem...

I think we are in agreement on Jadzia Daz

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